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GKCFiST
Posted: 2004-07-07 06:24:34
Does anyone here has the results?
AndyC
Posted: 2004-07-07 06:38:50
Got this of a dutch site::

Takashi Ohno vs Vincent Swaans
WINNER: TAKASHI OHNO 1ST RD


Duane Ludwig vs Saikan Ylmaz
WINNER: DUANE LUDWIG WOP

Takayuki Kohiruimaki vs Mike Zambidis
WINNER: TAKAYUKI KOHIRUIMAKI WOP

Match
Buakaw Por. Puramuk vs John Wayne Parr
WINNER: BUAKAW POR. PURAMUK WOP 1extra ronde ivm onbeslist

5th Match
Masato vs Jadamba Narantungalag
WINNER: MASATO WOP

6th Match
Albert Kraus vs Shamil Gaidarbekov
WINNER: ALBERT KRAUS WOP


Takayuki Kohiruimaki vs Buakaw Por. Puram
WINNER: BUAKOW POR. PURAM WKO 2RD


Glenn
Posted: 2004-07-07 06:40:53
Buakow vs Masato final. I hope the Thai wins!
Norma
Posted: 2004-07-07 06:41:18
The link to the thread with the results on the forum of www.vosproductions.nl is:
http://www.vosproductions.nl/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=10

AndyC
Posted: 2004-07-07 06:41:22
Just read Masato beat Kraus on points !

Looks like a Masato v BUAKOW final

COME ON BUAKOW!!!
GKCFiST
Posted: 2004-07-07 06:57:56
I always rooted for Masato. As I predicted, Masato is in the final once again. Buakaw beated John Wayne Parr as I predicted also. Either a Buakaw or Masato win is fine with me.
Glenn
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:01:59
Can you predict the horse racing as well?
AndyC
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:02:47
are you psychic ??
Paul
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:04:29
I'm in shock.
fads
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:12:19
OMFG WHAT AN UPSET!!!
fads
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:14:41
I hope masato loses now
AndyC
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:15:18
what are you so suprised about???
fads
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:16:54
OMFG WHAT AN UPSET!!!
fads
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:19:17
oops sorry for the double post, pressed refresh *Blush*
fads
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:22:07
oops sorry for the double post, pressed refresh *Blush*
fads
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:22:31
ugh i hate the way ax posts things when u refresh lol
specialsystem
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:43:26
Buakaw won the tournament!!
specialsystem
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:44:45
Buakaw won the tournament!!
specialsystem
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:45:03
Buakaw won the tournament!!
specialsystem
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:46:02
Buakaw won the tournament!!
fads
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:50:03
AWESOME!! GREAT NEWS FOR THAILAND
AndyC
Posted: 2004-07-07 07:54:01
excellent news !!
alexjxaver
Posted: 2004-07-07 08:16:56
this should help people remember that thais are the best in the world
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-07 08:42:35
Any Pics:??

In My Head if Jwp hadnt had ( imo the Toughest 1stDraw )
i think they would have been "Buakaow v Jwparr Final"
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 09:47:36
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 09:50:27
Way to go Buakao !!!
Only right that the best in the world should win....

Good job to JWP,, Keep up the good work ... too bad he had such a hard draw.
alexjxaver
Posted: 2004-07-07 09:52:53
i agree
Nakmuaymx
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:03:05

Buakao is da man!!!!!! big ups to JWP as well!!!! it was clear enough that the winner from that fight would take it all!!!! and it seems that obviously Buakkao's toughest fight was vs. JWP as expected. GREAT WARRIORS!!! take that masato!!!! hahahahaha!!!!
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:11:48

Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:12:17

P.J. Reilly
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:12:34
WOW! Sounds like a great tournament. Too bad Ludwig couldn't have gotten in. Congrats to everyone involved.
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:12:39

Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:12:58

Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:13:25

Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:13:53

Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:14:52

The Champ himself Buakao....
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:16:48
these pics from Max of course...

I also read that the Japanese crowd wasnt very respectful of the win for Buakao... no applause or nothin.---- doesnt suprise me
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:19:27
lol COZ Japan Still Second to the Thais ! I guess ! Its No.1 Style and Art !
Japan With Respect Copy Everything and Usually get it Better ! Not the "Muay-Thai" though !
:-p
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:22:37
Well said Sandman
AndyC
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:29:16
I thought the Japanese crowd we're usually very respectful to visiting fighters, that's what I've heard (and seen on videos)!

Great win for Buakao, look forward to seeing this video!

Am I the only one that's suprised that Kohi beat Zambidis?
Kamatari
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:32:00
You have to remember it was a typically "young crowd" though and their favourites were just battered still respect should have been given. People were banking on Masato and they beat another fave in Kohiruimaki. Crowds have been known to "die" from time to time when they don't get what they wanted to see. Ah well, he'll be a star anyway.
P.J. Reilly
Posted: 2004-07-07 10:32:07
OMG!! Check out Buakao's shins!! (pic w/ kohi)
Charlie Trojan
Posted: 2004-07-07 11:04:36
So gutted for JWP, if anyone deserved to win, it was him. To go out after an extra round with Buakow Sounds really demoralising. It must have been really close. Bad luck JWP.
SluDgE
Posted: 2004-07-07 11:59:32
anyone got an idea where Buakow's shorts can be found ? Because that is one of the COOLEST shorts I've ever seen...


Oliver Sperling
Posted: 2004-07-07 12:01:03
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/k1/live/200407/07/index.html


Lots of photos on this link!
Oliver Sperling
Posted: 2004-07-07 12:25:50

Come again JWP.
thongsai
Posted: 2004-07-07 14:53:12
Buakao won!!!!
Oh hell yeah THAILAND-THAILAND-THAILAND !!!!!!

The last couple of K-1 Max tournaments really upset me when
Koalan Koavichit got knocked out in the finals. Then Sakkhetdow gets
knoked out by Masato in the semis. Now that BuaKao won
it redeemed the Thai face because Essan fighters are the best!!!!!
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-07 15:45:00

'redeemed the Thai face because Essan fighters are the best!!!!!"

Arent Essan people from Laos... lol Just kidding

Essan fighters are the best.

check out the Prize money!!!!!!
larsenator
Posted: 2004-07-07 16:05:30
I had my money on JWP but I must admit that I kind of like the fact that a thai fighter won. After all it's their sport. Some people changed the rules and called it Full Contact Karate; then we got Kickboxing and suddenly we got K-1. After all they are all copies of the real deal: Authentic Muay Thai. So it pleases me to see Buakaw taking the title in front of a Japanes crowd! :) Congrats Buakaw!
Saigonkicker
Posted: 2004-07-07 17:16:51
damn!he can buy a village.GOOD JOB!that guy looks scary!!
HH
Posted: 2004-07-07 18:05:05
The prize money is almost the equivalent of $100,000 U.S. I can only imagine how far that money will go in Surin. Congratulations to Buakow and Wayne. I am sure if they were not matched first in the quarter finals then they would have probably met each other in the finals. The fact that their fight had to go an extra round indicates that was really close.
n8dog
Posted: 2004-07-07 18:12:23
Did he give Masato a good whipping or was the fight close??

Congrats Buakaw , way to go Hes an inspiration!
kirk
Posted: 2004-07-07 19:01:59
how is full contact a rip off of mt?
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-07 19:19:12
HH Just what I said Up Above ! Ref: I had My Thoughts and Said the same Because JWParr Should have met him in the Final
And Whats the Review V Masato and Buakuaw?
Anybody there? Saw it?
Cheers !
And can someone Put Correct Names to "Each" Pic: Above from NakMuays Pic Downwards
Yes the JWP and BuaKhaw last Pic: is Self-Explanatory !
ADAM ATMCGLDTR
Posted: 2004-07-07 19:42:22
Don't get me wrong, I'm a big fan of Masato,.. but I was really dissapointed in him for saying there was no one else too beat so he was considering retirement.
...........Arrogance or confidence I dunno.To this I shall add a qoute.

"The greatest enemy of tommorrow's succes is today's success"

There's so many good fighters. These fights are the pure essence of our beloved sport at its best.

What do you guys think? Its only going to get tougher from now on.I wasnt sure who to hope for. I thought J.W.P should of been in the K-1 max from the begining.

Adam
GKCFiST
Posted: 2004-07-07 21:24:58
Feel a bit bad for Masato cause I'm a big fan of his. But at the same time, I'm glad to see a Thai won. Buakaw is just as awesome as Masato. Great fight.
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-07 21:28:56
Does Masato Fight Full Muay-Thai ?

What wouldve Happened if it was those Rules too ?
Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm !
alexjxaver
Posted: 2004-07-07 21:35:33
the only full rules masato fight i have seen is back in 2000 in the kings birthday. If k-1 was full rules bokkaw would kill everyone!!! and probaly jwp too
berzerker
Posted: 2004-07-07 21:36:47
damn!!!!

i was so hoping jwp would win the whole thing...i am so disappointed!!!

though not as much as jwp himself...
have a look at the pic where Buakow is deemed the winner and look at jwp's facial expression...the guy's world is crushed.
and then look at the pic where Buakow is holding up the cheque, jwp is gutted.

i feel for jwp who has committed his life to the love of muay thai and is one of the greatest ambassador's of the sport in the western world

you're still my idol and hero jwp and though you didn't win this time your time will come...you're legendary status will be known throughout the world!


Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-07 21:42:47
Hes had a Great Year ! And Im Sure More to come ! Tournys arnt always a sure Thing ! The Draw Plays a BIG part of the Outcome !
I Prefer One on one 5 x 3 MT
Simple !
Roger Deaton
Posted: 2004-07-07 23:33:21
All the fighters from this show are scheduled for the MAX show in August.
Roger Deaton
Posted: 2004-07-07 23:52:33
To correct myself, instead of scheduled it was stated as "expected to participate" on the August MAX show. All the fighters on this show, minus Swaans and Takashi Ohono. HAYATO name was on list of fighters from August show also.

K-1 has also dropped the Vegas MAX show in October, and has moved it to Tokyo at the Yoyogi National Stadium instead. Same place the August show will be at. Takeda, Sudo, Kohriumaki, and Kid Yamamoto are the first names mentioned for the October show.
Satankid
Posted: 2004-07-07 23:59:26
Sandy- Masato Used to fight MT rules before he was signed by K1 after 20 or so fights. Now he only fights in K1-Max.

Bukkao was awesome- he annihilated Kohi in the semi final in a similar fashion as Kaolan did 2 years ago then made Masato look way out of his depth in the final. His ability to dodge punches and close the gap was incredible and he oozed class and dominance much as a ringmaster in a circus.
It was a total sham that it was called a draw after 3 rounds as Bukkao clearly won in terms of everything- workrate, power, damage and looked in much better condition throughout it all. He eased up on a totally wasted Masato near the end of R3, as Thais do, but I think this may have worked against him in the judges' eyes as it made it look like Masato was still in the fight. When just a 1-0 in favour of Bukkao was called, the Thai was really pissed off and went into the extra round really fired up and baically smashed Masato around the ring at will.
It was really funny- when the last 10 seconds clapper went he beckoned Masato to come forward, then turned like a Matador as Masato fell halfway through the ropes. Then Bukkao stood behind him in the buttfcuk position and glared right at the judge who was sitting directly below, sending out a clear message.
At the final decision Masato looked relieved that he did not have to do another round.
I was dissapointed that Masato showed himslf to be such a sore loser as he ran back to the dressing room afterwards while all the other fighters gathered in the ring around Bukkao.
Satankid
Posted: 2004-07-08 00:07:42
I don't know about the comments about Japanese fans being disrespectful to Bukkao. If they were, it was not clear on TV and it would surprise me because Japanese fans usually applaud the fighters, whoever they are and fighters from Thailand are looked up upon more than most.
n8dog
Posted: 2004-07-08 00:49:35
Those are great pics man so clear!!!
BTW
Any more??
specialsystem
Posted: 2004-07-08 01:11:36
Satankid,
I read on the k-1 usa website that he was sent straight to the hospital after his fight with buakkao in the finals. Do you think he is really hurt?
Chloe
Posted: 2004-07-08 01:19:05

I've actually come across a few pics, this is one before (i think it was) the k1max
Chloe
Posted: 2004-07-08 01:24:50

Mr JWP
Chloe
Posted: 2004-07-08 01:31:04

Mastro vs Buakawak
Chloe
Posted: 2004-07-08 01:32:27

Mastro vs Buakawak
thongsai
Posted: 2004-07-08 03:05:54
I might be wrong, I have not seen the fight yet
but maybe the reason that Japan
didn't give Buakao such a warm welcome is because
of his attitude - by looking at his pictures and studying
his body languge. He looks pissed like he's didn't come to dance,
he came to prove a point and punk everyone that stood in his
way. Unlike the past thai's that came before him like Kaolan,Sakhetdow,and Changpeuk,
they were really respectful. But Buakao looked like he didn't give a fuck.


-The picture where Buakao knocked down Kohi -look at the look he
gave Kohi and heading torwards the neutral corner.

Sawtanang - thanks for posting the pic,
Charlie Trojan
Posted: 2004-07-08 03:13:07
This link gives a brief run down of the fights:

www.so-net.ne.jp/feg/k-1gp/top617.htm
Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2004-07-08 03:21:49
You mean this one...
I see what you mean.

Rob
Posted: 2004-07-08 04:58:03
knowing Buakao I dont think that is the case! he is usually a respectful fighter and dont think he would have acted any way different to Kaolan etc...
David Lucas
Posted: 2004-07-08 09:32:01
i think the problem for buakao is that the japanese fans were really rooting hard for their media darling teen idols. someone described the audience as looking like they were at a funeral, they were just in shock that their heros could lose so convincingly to anyone.
Sonik
Posted: 2004-07-08 17:37:18
I would look Kohi the same way. I just don't like the guy after his atitude in the ring in the K-1 Max 2002 finals agaisnt Florin Marino. Florin got hurt and was about to fall with a huge pain, but still, Kohi didn't stop and tried to kick in the head. I just loved to see Kohi being beaten up by Kaolan in the next fight. Kohi maybe thought he was a bad boy but Kaolan is much tougher than him. I can't wait to see this fight having Buakaw beatin' on Kohi. It's also nice to know that Masato lost. Myabe that will make him change his atitude.
n8dog
Posted: 2004-07-08 20:43:47
When was the last time a thai won a K1 ?

I think buakaw taught them a good lesson letting them know that thais are the best......Judging by the look on his face after JWP it looks as though he was so happy because he was the only man that was going to stop him .
alexjxaver
Posted: 2004-07-08 21:52:29
My man kaolarn kaovchit got to the finals in 2002
Satankid
Posted: 2004-07-09 01:21:22
In round 1 Kohi, while holding Bukkao's leg, kicked the Thai hard in the knee after the ref said break. Bukkao seemed pretty pissed off and gave Kohi a look that he was gonna dish out some hurt for that (then he did).

I still don't know about Bukkao not getting a warm welcome. He seems to be popular in Japan.
Fighting Harada
Posted: 2004-07-09 02:11:40
Satankid, I think you need to wait before saying ignorant comments like "Masatos a sore loser". He congratulated Buakaw after the fight and went STRAIGHT to the hospital. Did you watch the fights? He went through three TOUGH fights. He was pissing blood after the tournament for christ sakes. The doctors said he was bleeding internaly.

If you want to talk about "sore losers" why don't you talk about Kraus? His post-fight comments were EXTREMELY disrespectful. He clearly lost his fight against Masato, and tried to use the BS extra round of Buakaw to his advantage by claiming he was robbed. He even took credit away from Buakaw by saying: "I knew Buakaw would win because I already hurt Masato".

Please... the guy rushes to the hospital and all of a sudden he's a "sore loser"? What about the mans heart? He had the heart of a lion coming in there with two swollen eyes he can barely see with.

About the whole: "Thai fighters are the best!" Being a good fighter has nothing to do with your ethnicity. All of the fighters at MAX were top-tier fighters who could win over any other fighter at any given night.
Fighting Harada
Posted: 2004-07-09 02:15:18
Satankid, I think you need to wait before saying ignorant comments like "Masatos a sore loser". He congratulated Buakaw after the fight and went STRAIGHT to the hospital. Did you watch the fights? He went through three TOUGH fights. He was pissing blood after the tournament for christ sakes. The doctors said he was bleeding internaly.

If you want to talk about "sore losers" why don't you talk about Kraus? His post-fight comments were EXTREMELY disrespectful. He clearly lost his fight against Masato, and tried to use the BS extra round of Buakaw to his advantage by claiming he was robbed. He even took credit away from Buakaw by saying: "I knew Buakaw would win because I already hurt Masato".

Please... the guy rushes to the hospital and all of a sudden he's a "sore loser"? What about the mans heart? He had the heart of a lion coming in there with two swollen eyes he can barely see with.

About the whole: "Thai fighters are the best!" Being a good fighter has nothing to do with your ethnicity. All of the fighters at MAX were top-tier fighters who could win over any other fighter at any given night.
Joe Blow
Posted: 2004-07-09 02:46:06
Congrats to all the fighters, a great tournament and a great champion, there are always loosers and excuses but thats the sport, everyone wants to win and only one can, but you must respect everyone who steps into the square ring, they are all CHAMPIONS, great to see Buakaw win he is a machine!!!!!
thongsai
Posted: 2004-07-09 06:37:26
Most Thai fighters are really respectful but it's the ones like Buakao
that excite me. The ones that are gentle outside of the ring and
are ruthless monsters inside the ring.

What I was trying to say is Kaolan and Saketdao are good
but they were not as brutal and exciteing as Buakao.
I read somewhere that Buakao had Masato bent over through the ropes
and was behind Masato in Doggy Style Position. In a gesture
that was just absalutely to humuliate Masato as a warrior.
While he was doing this to Masato he stared down one of the
Japanese judges that pissed him off earlier like you want some too.

My opinion
Why the Japanese fans were silent:
I think the fans in the stadium could sense that Buakao was hurricane
going through the tournament. Also he beat the crap out of Kohi and
pretending to punk Super star Model Masato PRISON STYLE. In front of all the teenage girl fans was just to much for them LOL....
Glenn
Posted: 2004-07-09 07:01:27
LOL. Masato is arrogant and it was good to see him on the receiving end. I would like to see Kraus get destroyed next.
Kamatari
Posted: 2004-07-09 08:45:25
If anyone should be dogged it's Kraus for his horrible behaviour post fight. Masato showed tremendous heart and for those of you that don't know it's mostly the K-1 hype machine talking not Masato. He's confident but not really arrogant. I don't get how anyone can label Masato a "sore loser" either. Buakaw is awesome and I think the fans will get accustomed to him being on top, back at the April show fans were gasping at how hard he kicked and were overall very excited. But on this event he truly showed what he was capable of especially in the last two fights where he shifted into another gear.
T-hill
Posted: 2004-07-09 13:12:06
Well...I've trained with both guys-Kohi and Masato.
They are both a little cocky and arrogant at times.
A little can be good but I think they both have taken it to a new level.
Fighting Harada
Posted: 2004-07-09 13:49:19
Well Thongsai, it sounds to me that you haven't even watched the fight, and unless you know Buakaw personaly, and talk with him on a daily basis, I don't see how you can claim he was purposely being disrespectful.

and about "why the Japanese fans were silent"... half of the audience in attendence were college school girls who have a crush on Masato. They don't know about kickboxing. They came to see there idol win.

Anyways - If you're going to be an asshole and mock really good fighters (or make it seem like Buakaw was being disrespectful) than at least "WATCH" the fight. None of this "I READ SOMEWHERE..." junk. Really disturbing, the lack of respect.

Funny how JWP, Buakaw, and everyone else (-kraus) is very respectful of all there opponents, yet some guy who trains at a gym for fun and discovered the internet can mock the fighters who put all there heart into a sport that they all love. Way to go guy.
P.J. Reilly
Posted: 2004-07-09 15:15:44
What did Kraus do?
Kamatari
Posted: 2004-07-09 15:18:09
T-hill,

Kohi was the first to admit that Buakaw was stronger so. But I get what you're saying.
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-09 15:44:14

Fighting Harada
I think your mistaking Thongsai's attempt to try and explain, you almost never see a Thai do a "mean" face during a fight when the guy is on the ground.
That is the difference that seperates BuaKow from the Other "best" in the world.

that being said... School girl or no school girls ,, fan or not,,, The Man deserves respect.. 50% school girls i find that hard to beleive.

An I also strongly agree that if your going to make a bold statement about another Axer you should have a filled out profile with pic instead of hiding behind your Keyboard.

"yet some guy who trains at a gym for fun and discovered the internet can mock the fighters who put all there heart into a sport that they all love. Way to go guy."---
Matt-
Posted: 2004-07-09 15:56:02
I found this on MMA.TV


K-1 JUDGING SCANDAL


The word from Japan is that many Japanese K-1 fans are not happy at the obvious biased judging that favored Japanese fighter Masato in the K-1 Max final yesterday, in which he lost to Thai fighter Buakaw 'Por Pramuk'.

Most, if not all K-1 fans already know that their Japanese fighters will usually get the hometown decision, but yesterday's farce seems to have gone over the line according to most fans.

Thai fighter Buakaw 'Por Pramuk' dominated all three rounds, yet the judges voted it a draw, which forced one extra round. Buakaw won the extra round decisively as well to effectively de-throne the defending K-1 Max champion Masato.

Even though Masato is Japanese, most fans felt embarassed that the judges seemed to try and help him when it was obvious he had lost the fight in regulation. Sources in the Japanese media are describing it as being the same bitter feeling that most boxing fans are feeling in the US regarding the many controversial decisions that have happened as of late.

Coincidentally, Masato also recieved a dubious judges decision against Mike Zambidis in the first round of last year's K-1 Max World GP Finals, when most thought Zambidis won that fight. Masato then went on to win the tournament.
Matt-
Posted: 2004-07-09 16:07:43
Fighting Harada, Sono ba ni itandesuka hanbun no okyakusanga kogalru no bashoni? Sore tomo tada ookinakoto wo ituterundesuka? Anata wa Nihonjin soretomo tada no shirobutasan ga nihonmei wo tukatuerundesukane~??
HH
Posted: 2004-07-09 16:09:32
Interseting article on K-1 judging bias. Seems some what similar to what happened to Felix Sturm in his fight against Oscar De La Hoya in Las Vegas.

thongsai
Posted: 2004-07-09 18:14:10
Fighting Harada,
I never disrespected BuaKao, I am from the North Eastern
part of Thailand known as Essan, we are culturely different
from central Thai's. Buakao is also from Essan - when BuaKao
won the K-1 Max I was happy because it was someone from my home
that won, someone who shares the same culture as me.

You did not read my post closely I thought it was great that
Buakao was the way he was to his opponents. Most Thai fighters
don't show pain or emotions in the ring. But BuaKow is different,
he showed he has a character a mean side which is "AWESOME".

Don't Assume

-Also you don't know nothing about me brother I have been doing muay thai
for 15 years!!! I lived a very poor life in Thailand this is not
a fary tale. All the men in my family were all provincinal fighters
including myself. I first fought when I was 12 in THailand.
I love Muaythai so much with all my heart and my passion. I am one of the youngest Muaythai promoters and trainers. You said I was just someone who trained for fun and found the internet, who the fuck are you punk? Most anyone on here knows more about me then that, don't hurl insults at me when you have no idea. I'm not no internet boxer, I'm thai, we talk with our hands. I try my best to be polite and respectful and if you think I train just for fun, e-mail me and we can settle it.

Sawtanang- THanks Bro.

Fighting Harada
Posted: 2004-07-09 18:17:44
Well Sawtanang, I disagreed with his statement that "THAI'S ARE THE BEST!" amd "I read somewhere that Buakao had Masato bent over through the ropes
and was behind Masato in Doggy Style Position. In a gesture
that was just absalutely to humuliate Masato as a warrior."

The first was ridiculous. To merit a fighter by his ethnicity is absurd. The second was speculation without having seen the fight. I've seen it, and I don't think Buakaw meant to disrespect Masato. Even the teeps to the face. Buakaw said himself that: "Masato is a excellent fighter. He came in injured, and so I won." (very humble of him, good showing of respect and sportsmanship).

Personaly, I think Buakaw didn't give himself enough credit. In a tournament if you finish your fights fast and decicively than you deserve that fresh final round. Anyways - I feel like he's making his character seem "rude" when he was in fact VERY respectable.

As for your your statement: "An I also strongly agree that if your going to make a bold statement about another Axer you should have a filled out profile with pic instead of hiding behind your Keyboard."

What does my picture and profile have to do with my comment? How am I hiding behind my keyboard? I said a opinion reguarding people speculating there opinions as facts to what other fighters intentions were. Hiding behind my keyboard? Please. What are you suggesting? We fight in the ring because I disagree with his speculations and disrespect of fighters? Wheres the maturity.
Fighting Harada
Posted: 2004-07-09 18:27:01
I never disrespected BuaKao, I am from the North Eastern
part of Thailand known as Essan, we are culturely different
from central Thai's. Buakao is also from Essan - when BuaKao
won the K-1 Max I was happy because it was someone from my home
that won, someone who shares the same culture as me.

You did not read my post closely I thought it was great that
Buakao was the way he was to his opponents. Most Thai fighters
don't show pain or emotions in the ring. But BuaKow is different,
he showed he has a character a mean side which is "AWESOME".

Don't Assume

-Also you don't know nothing about me brother I have been doing muay thai
for 15 years!!! I lived a very poor life in Thailand this is not
a fary tale. All the men in my family were all provincinal fighters
including myself. I first fought when I was 12 in THailand.
I love Muaythai so much with all my heart and my passion. I am one of the youngest Muaythai promoters and trainers. You said I was just someone who trained for fun and found the internet, who the fuck are you punk? Most anyone on here knows more about me then that, don't hurl insults at me when you have no idea. I'm not no internet boxer, I'm thai, we talk with our hands. I try my best to be polite and respectful and if you think I train just for fun, e-mail me and we can settle it.

You're right, I don't know you. You could be a world champion for all I know (much respect for you for everything you accomplished), but I still didn't like your speculation on why Buakaw was "humiliating" Masato on purpose. I thought he was extremely respectful during his post fight comments, and that he did business in the ring.

Settle this in a ring? I love fighting, but over a senseless issue likemy disagreement with your post is absurd.


I thought Buakaw was awesome that night. The man was on fire. He beat JWP, DESTROYED Kohi, and made Masato look like a fish out of water. However saying things like "Humiliate Masato Doggy Style" to me is disrespectful, even more so since you're suggesting Buakaw did it purposely. Did he do it purposely? I don't know, but it's not best (as you say) to assume. I think all fighters deserve respect, and if Buakaw did that on purpose to humiliate Masato(which I really think he didn't, supported by his respectful post fight comments)than he loses points in my book. Disrespecting fighters is not cool IMHO.
alexjxaver
Posted: 2004-07-09 18:39:12
Thais are the best. and it is not anything genetic. It is because they are form a culture that lives muay thai, and nothing else. It is there life, and the majority of thais train form a very, very young are wich gives a huge advantage to them. And the thais train like no one else wich gives them as the edge aginst anyone else.
Sawtanang
Posted: 2004-07-09 18:56:15
Fighting Harada..
Im not trying to start fights. but when people take personal shots on ax
ie, your statement about another Ax'r

I feel one should lay down his credentials for all to see to back up his opinion.

That being said we are probably getting off topic here. As far as "Thais are the best"

please read the thread I created on it intitled-- Thais "are" the best
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-09 20:40:27
Are the Best @ Muay-Thai?
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-09 20:41:35
Oh !
"100"
Btw
:-))))))))))
Matt-
Posted: 2004-07-09 21:42:49
Harada, did (can) you read my post or are just a white guy with a Japanese screen name?
Glenn
Posted: 2004-07-09 22:16:24
かれは外人ですね。
Sandy Holt
Posted: 2004-07-09 22:48:09
`qhu`
`9` Boxes?
Matt-
Posted: 2004-07-09 23:19:52
Dato omotuta. shirobutasan...
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Satankid
Posted: 2004-07-11 00:37:47
Harada- Chill for fack's sake. I agree that your profile has nothing to do with your opinion but there's no need to be so overbearing.

I regret writing that I thought Masato acted like a sore loser by not staying in the ring with the others after the fight- especially when I heard about his injuries.
However, It's a shame that you couldn't disagree in a more cool-headed manner. Also, if you want me to elaborate on my opinions just ask and I'll post- don't take it upon yourself to write expansions for me.


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