Jim Chapman def Paul Strauss SD3
Chris Horn NC Dan Ash (Horn cut)
Freddie Camacho NC Peter Moutappa (Camacho cut)
Nathan Smith def Jandel David MD3
Chris Aldea def Eddie Godinez UD3
Rebecca De La Mott def Amanda Pera UD3
Kevin Ruelas def Gabriel Ibala UD3
Chris Cariso def Prudencio Portillo UD4 (CA State Light Welterweight Title)
Jose Palacios def Boy Faphimai TKO2
John Ellcessor def Luke Caudillo UD4
Gary Owens def Toshiyuki Nakagawa KO1
Brian Schwartz def Tom Bottone UD12 (ISKA Super Middleweight World Title)

Way to go Chris Aldea! Keep on truckin!

Lane Collyer
www.extremekickboxing.net

Who is Toshiyuki Nakagawa? He looked like a beginner. Gary Owens deserves a better opponent since he's pro.

How was the Main event? Good fight? Poor Moutapa, seems like something strange is always happening.

Any details on Boy vs. Palacios?

whiterabbit - Don't know much about Nakagawa, he didn't look very poised, did he? He did lose to Tom Jones by UD on the last K-1 USA undercard earlier this year. His record is listed as 7-4 and he's trained by Kru Rex.



PJ - The main event was decent. Both fighters seemed to respect each other a little too much and seemed afraid to really mix it up. Schwartz did score 2 knockdowns during the fight in the 3rd and 4th rounds. Maybe when Tommy B gets back home he can elaborate on it some.

And Moutappa - yeah, seems like there's always something. The last time I saw him fight he was DQed for low kicks. Last night it was just an accidental clash of heads and his opponent got a bad cut. A really nice guy too.



Bryan - Palacios just seemed like he had too much experience for Boy. 9 fights for Palacios compared to 3 for Boy. Palacios had Boy in some big trouble in the 2nd round. Had him backed into a corner and nailed him with everything but the kitchen sink. Boy didn't actually hit the mat but was slumped against the corner and just beat the ref's count. After he got up he was limping bad and the doctor came in and checked his leg and then stopped the fight. Looked like a mismatch to me. With some more experience and fights with guys of equal skill level, Boy could be a good fighter.

Great results Gee Tee! Thank you

One little miss type: Chris HOM not Horn =p

I just returned from California.

I want to congradulate Brian schwartz on his victory.

I guess it may have looked like we where noit willing to committ. The thruth is that brian did a very good job of using his height advantage as he is 6"3 and has an awesomwe side kick. He stuck to his game plan by utulizing the side kick to keep me at bay for the entire fight.
I trasined very herd for this fight and just could not get my plan into motion as I tried harder in each round in many different ways to make it into a fight but he would not alter his plan and he won.
he caught me 2 times early in the fight which stunned me and I got up to fight hard and tried to close the gap.
After the 5 rd i thought that i was getting closer to him and just could not get himn to stay and fight. he did a great job of side kick and move. I was blocking most shots and avoiding them after rd 6 but could not nail him down. believe me I tried.
i was getting to him in the last few rounds but it was too late at that point.

Brian deserves alot of credit for sticking to his plan and winning.
I want to thank ken hewski,Kadir kadri ,and peter keljavic, for helping me with this fight.

I did my best and will learn from the experience.

I will post photos soon from my trip to San Jose.

Sorry for all of the mispelling.

I guess I am still a little punch drunk.

Here are some photos !

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Here is some of my face damage after the fight !

MzM - Hom, I'll get it right next time. I know he's one of your guys. Misspelled his name on my notes. Also, it was good to see John Ellcessor in action again. I haven't seen him fight in a while. He put in a good showing against a very tough opponent.


Tommy B - Great fight. You showed everybody what you're made of by surving the 2nd knockdown and going the distance. Thanks for coming out here and showing your stuff and for the great pics - keep 'em coming. What happened to the fight between Kadir Kadri and Travis Johnson ? I saw them both there, but they didn't fight.

Thanks for the nice words. I am glad you enjoyed the fight.

I like coming to San Jose as it is a nice city and the people are great. I hope to have better luck next time.

Kadir was there to fight but Travis johnson had the Flu so he was unable to compete. Hopefully they will fight on the next event.

I took Kadir a corner man for my fight since he trained hard for the fight and also helped me prepare for my fight.

How did Boy lost??? That's hard to believe.......... =(

http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=215545

Here's a comment page about the same event last night.

Why the CA Athletic Commission allows Toshikawa to continue to fight is criminal. His record is probably something like 2-27. I actually KO'd him in 1994 and he's been KO'd by a fair number of AX posters as well. The guy is a really nice guy and it is just incredible that his trainer allows him to keep endangering his health like that.

Those where nice comments of the fight for someone who left before the 6 th rd of A 12 rd fight on sheardog.

thats Ok. We are all entitled to our opinion.

Just A little addition to the sheardog comments.

I already stated that I lost but was trying for all 12 rds to close the gap to try for A ko as I was in no was trying to get A decission in his hometown.

I lost but have nothing to be ashamed of as I came to win and fought hard until the end of the 12 th rd.

By the way in my entire career over 13 years of fighting, I never finished a fight on the canvas. I always come to fight .I have had alot of sucess and sometimes you loose. I have seen over my career by fighting Brian schwartz and Erik regan that I have a very hard time closing the gap on these very tall skilled fighters.

His plan to keep me away worked and he deserved credit for the win. To try to discredit me does not give Brian his due respect.

Some people may not like the way the fight played out especially me but Brian had a game plan and stuck to it and he won because of it.I take my hat off to him.

I will take the loss and try to learn from it.

Well done Tommy, I know first hand sometimes it is very difficult to get in on the tall guys like John Orchard and Wim Nuyens. I give you all the credit in the world for taking on anyone at anytime. Good luck in the future

Congrats Tommy, you didn't win but you gave it your all and maintained a professional attitude regardless of the comments. Good luck in the future.

Thanks guys, I hope to learn from this experience.

It has never been easy in full contact rules fights for me to close the gap on tall guys with good kicks as was proven by my losses to Brian Schwartz and to Erik Regan.

Good to see a few CA people posting here. I was starting to think this site was all just British people! I didn't see the show myself but thanks for posting the results and also I enjoyed seeing all the pictures Tommy Bee put up on this and the other threads.

Tommy "Heart Of Stone" Bottone. Thats the name I'm going to put above your picture that I have hanging in my school. It was an honor for me to be your main cornerman for this fight. You've tought me so much just in this fight alone. Everything that you've always told me about staying calm no matter what happens. To keep fighting harder and harder every round. That the only way for them make us stop fighting is to kill us. I watched you prove everything that you've taught me about having the will to fight. You also showed everyone in that arena what it really means to have heart. Thank you for another great lesson. I'm once again proud to call you my teacher.

ken

Hey Kenny There is no better copliment than hearing those words from one of my top students that I ever trained.Thank you very much.

I also like that nick name " Heart Of Stone Bottone " it has A nice ring to it .

Here are some Photos of San Jose other than the fight !

Here are some Photos of San Jose other than the fight !

Here are some Photos of San Jose other than the fight !

Here are some Photos of San Jose other than the fight !

Here are some Photos of San Jose other than the fight !

Here are some Photos of San Jose other than the fight !

The last photo was taken at West Coast karate school

I want to thank the school for letting me train there the week of the fight.

The last photo was taken at West Coast karate school

I want to thank the school for letting me train there the week of the fight.

I usually just read but since I fought at this event I'll make my first post. I just wanted to congradulate my opponent on giving me a VERY tough fight and a broken nose. Even though I won, he has more bragging rights than I do lol.

My biggest bruise isn't my nose, it's actually on my shin from the many times we clashed kicks.

I felt really bad watching Boy's fight as he wasn't quite ready for Josh's overwhelming pressure. One of Boy's fights was a win over my mate and hoep to see his next fight a win!

Did Boy hurt his injured foot during the fight so that's why it was stopped? I still couldn't believe he lost. =(

As I said before you are welcome to your opinion.

Again I find it odd how you state that you agree with there opinion and then you state that you and your buddies left in the first round. How can you give an opinion of a fight which you did not see.

As far as the crowd all leaving that is obviously not true. All you have to do is look above at the photos to see the crowd was quit full for the fight.

I am not sure what you are trying to prove by speaking bad of a fight that you state you did not see.

I fight in all styles and kno very well how hard they all are to fight in. For you to try to insult A style shows your ignorance of that style or your lack of experience ." Of course no disrespect to anyone "

No disrespect to you, Tommy, but as I mentioned in your previous post, I'd have to back up Brian since he's a California/Bay Area homeboy. I knew he'd be sticking that hard@ss sidekick and his punches are probably almost as solid. Congrats to Brian on his Win and congrats to Tommy for not giving in.

Thats cool. It is nice to see A possaative view on here once in A while.

Brian deserved the credit. He fought A very smart fight and won.

Tommy, no disrespect to you or anyone of course. But how would you know I never watch a full contact bout? I watched it before and so did a lot of my buddies, everyone of them said it's boring, annoying, and definitely not entertaining. And also I called my other friends that was still at the fight after we left and they said a lot of people are leaving during the 5th and 6th round and didn't have the desire to watch anymore. They were too getting ready to leave.

It's really not talking smack about a certain style, it's just majority of the people's opinion you know. They like what's good for the sport. Afterall, this is a free country and people can speak whatever is on their mind. And as I stated, no disrespect to you or anyone else for that matter.

A lot of my friends walked out in the 7th round of the Mike Tyson vs. Bonecrusher Smith fight. Man, that Mike Tyson is a boring fighter. I talked to some of my friends who saw the fight on t.v. and they all thought that fight really sucked, also. They will never watch Tyson again. In fact they are boycotting boxing because it is so boring. I think maybe no one will ever watch boxing again. Especially Mike Tyson, I don't think anyone will ever watch him fight again.

Haha, funny!

What I said was that i do not understand how you can comment on A fight that you did not see as you said that you agree with the sherdog comments and you left in the first round. this does not make snse to comment on a 12 rd fight if youonly saw less than 1 rd.
I really do not kno what photos you are looking at as the only time there where alot of empty seats where after the fight was over as it was the main event "Last fight ". The fact of the matter was that fight had a big crowd and most stayed until the end of the main event which is rare at most kickboxing events.
It really does not matter if you like full contact rules or not. What troubles me is that people in this sport are so against different styles and extremely negative just because they do not partake in that style. I guess it is hard for me to understand as I have always considered myself A fighter not a full contact,low kick,sanshou,grappler,boxer ,but A fighter who loves to fight and loves to watch and train in all fighting sports. Since I have been fihting at different times there have been each style on top for some time but it never really matters to me as I love all of the fighting styles and enjoy each for different reasons. I learn something evertime I watch A good fight in any style.
What you should focas on is weather you liked the fight or not. I personally did not like the way the fight played out but this is life . They do not ALL WORK OUT THE WAY WE PLAN.
I strongly believe that if we could learn to stop being so negative in this sport and try to support eachother we will all beneffit much more.
I do not speak as a full contact fighter but as a fighter and a true fan of all of the fighting sports.
If you where to go to my web site ww.ringoffirekickboxing.com you will see that at any given time we are devoted to all fighting sports never to the promotion of 1 form of fighting over another .This is A reflection of how My school has always been . This also has given my fighters many opportunities to compete more often than if they they where limited to 1 style and gives them A much larger fan base which is good for the sport over all.

I don't know why you can't accept the fact that majority of the people left during the last bout, but it's the fact. I get a better view of my surrounding in the crowd better then a person standing in the ring. Just cause you saw a few people in the ring don't mean people the arena was 'quite full'.

I saw people leaving, I heard people saying they were bored and want to go home, I heard people around me said " What is this? this is boring!!! ", I called some of my friends who left after me and my buddies and they said majority of the people were leaving and getting ready to leave during the 5th and 6th round and so were they. And these are the FACTS so just let it be and don't fuss over it. So just drop the subject and case closed about this. It's not that difficult.

I have to agree on that. It's not dissing on a certain style or rule, but sometimes when I see a full contact bout on ESPN2, I switch the channel because it's boring. It just makes me yawn.

I think different styles or rules separate people from one another. It's best if everyone just fight with any rules no matter what style.

I think the full contact bashing is a little much. Guys like Bottone that will fight any rules are merely stepping up to the challenge to fight. He would have fought Schwartz Muay Thai or Low kick but that is not what was offered!! The point is he fought 12 rounds wich is a long time for yout hat have never done it. The fight is over and they both gave their best. Isn't that what this is all about??!!

What I think is most funny is that you seem to think that if you keep coming on this website saying you don't like full contact that it will make it become extinct. You guys are cracking me up.

No disrespect to anyone of course.

You should just cut and paste cuz you keep saying the same dribble over and over and over and over and over...... here, let me do it for you I'm sure you are a real busy person getting ready for all your full rules muay thai fights or full out no rules cage matches or whatever it is you do!!

"I did saw a big amount of people left during the full contact bout. I think the whole night, most of the bouts were muay thai rules and which is great. But I heard people sitting around me said " What is this? no leg kicks/knees? Boring, let's go home", and they left. I think by the end of the 1st round, me and a group of my buddies left too as it was getting annoying. Maybe it's because the rules is frustrating the crowd. Or because full contact is a dying sport. I wish the main event would be a muay thai rules bout also, now I'm sure majority of the crowd wouldn't leave. My humble opinion."

"I have to agree on that. It's not dissing on a certain style or rule, but sometimes when I see a full contact bout on ESPN2, I switch the channel because it's boring. It just makes me yawn. "

There I did the cut and paste for you guys or you guy or whatever.... did it a couple times so you don't have to say the same thing any more.... over and over and over and over.......

Want me to do it again? Just let me know I'm glad to help out.

NO disrespect to anyone of course.

Over and over and over and over

No disrespect

LOL....legkick

Tommy congrats on a hard fought fight!!!!

That is funny as most of those comments are :

It would be cool if people would just go to fights to see too people due battle no matter what the rules are .

In my experience in my events as well as travelling to many places to compete is that people seem to enjoy seeing mixed cards with different styles more than 1 particilar style .It makes it more interesting.

As A fan I can enjoy any style of fighting as I love combat soprts.

Thanks, Sandonn

Getting back to the results....What were the rules for Boy's fight with Jose Palacios? Can someone please elaborate on the details of this fight. This is the second time that Boy has been stopped by one of Cung Le's fighters.

Second time he hurt his foot also and ended up in a lost to the same opponent, sad to hear. =(

Actually it's kind of bad for the sport of kickboxing to see so many different rules. That's probably one of the reason why kickboxing isn't as popular as boxing or MMA. The sport needs to be united and not separated with so many different funky rules. You have people wearing long pants, chunky-o-funky looking boots, and so on. When people go to an event for the first time, you will definitely hear things like: " Okay, another rule changes? this is confusing me. Kicks above the waist only??! How come the last bout, everything was allowed? What's up with those funky shoes and the pajama pants? etc. etc. "

So it's better to have an event with just one rule and not so many funky rules that's confusing the heck out of people who is new to watching kickboxing. Think about why so many people watches boxing and MMA more then kickboxing, it's because of the confusion. Until then!

I think that all that has to be done at events in to explain the rules in the program and have the anouncer explian the rules before A rules change.I think that the average person knows the rules in boxing but they still desribe the rules in detail before the fights.

This is how we do it on our events and people really enjoy seeing different styles ! If A crowd is A Muy Thai based style and they get a full contact fight with no warning this may surprise them. Our events reflect our view of A good fight is based on the fighters not the rules. so we just try to hold good fights in what ever rules they match up in. I have never heard any complaints about having different styles on our events from any fans as they expect to see different styles on our events. They have actually told me many times that it is very interesting to see some of the fighters fight in different styles on different events.

A person who is not in the game does not expect any set of rules when coming to A show that says kickboxing except for Kicks. So to say that the average guy is confiused by the rules is normally because they are being fed things about the sport which are not true.

I would have no problem with everyone doing 1 style like K-1 rules for example then we can all get along and train for the same style of fighting.

Since this is not the case and there are many chances for fighters to compete in different styles I like to train people to compete in all styles so they are not limited in places to compete in.

I have also noticed some people like 1 style and some like another style ,also some are better suited for some styles rather than others.

For example Fighters like Brian schwartz and Erik Reagn which are very tall tend to like full contact rules because it better fits there body type and style of fighting. If there is not 1 rule style then there should not be the people on the inside comlaining of other styles as it really serves no purpose.

As I stated before if you do not like to see certain style fights then do not watch that fight. But I do not see what purpose it makes to try to dicredit any fighter or style.

My answer to those who try to insult A style is you should try to fight in that style against the guys who you are making fun of and see if you still think it is silly .

As david said above. I would have taken this fight under any rules. That is due to my respect for all rules and training for all rules from the start.

I believe that if I call my self A fighter I should never be restricted by rules. A fighter comes from heart,will,power,and A good chin.Technique can be taught but those qualities you either have or you do not.

Can't we all just get along with one rule which allows everything for any styles of kickboxers?

I like seeing video clips of what they had in the old days, when they had American kickboxer fighting a Muay Thai stylist. Those were entertaining to watch.

well said dave. the style of the fight would never had been an issue. i might have my timeline all wrong, but i think this is the first full contact bout that tommy has competed in 2 years. maybe some people did leave the show. that happens at every show. it was definetely not the majority of the crowd that left. not even close. i paid special attention because i was scoping out all of the lovely women in the crowd.

Congradtualtions to Tommy on Fighting 12 hard, frustrating rounds

From reading this post all I can say is that One person with a bee in is bonnet has hijacked a thread in which Tommy had shown only respect and made statements which present a postive image for martials arts and combat sports in general.

If you don't like it don't watch it - and don't whine on about it successively - one comment really suffices - particularly when you keep on rehashing the same old stuff.

In fact the most constructive comment which at least give consideration to the sport moving forward as a whole was related to competing under a unified set of rules. At least that could be construed as a positive suggestion which could lead the sport forward.

As for the no disrespect comment: well think about it, the guy has just fought 12 rounds and lost on points by your coming on here and essentailly dissing the fight you are effectively saying - hey that 12 rounds you fought was a complete waste of time, which oks is pretty close to saying Hey F**k you , ah no disrespect...

Why not just congratulate the guy on a good fight or say nothing, and if you still have a be in your bonnet invite constructive discussion in a separate and devoted thread.

that was beautiful

"that was beautiful" - I second that. If you don't have anything good to say then don't say it at all. Change the channel and go to another thread. You say you have no interest in FC, yet here you are day after day commenting on it. So why are you here ????? Let the people that like it discuss it in peace.

There should be muay thai vs. full contact karate rules like they did back in the days. Check out the pictures below, those are pretty entertaining bouts to watch and no one will get bored and get along.


http://members.aol.com/Thaiboxing2000/muay.html

Jose Palacios KO Boy In the Second Round. Big ups to Jose Palacios. Great Fighter

Hey sonny, Boy did not get KO'ed by Jose Palacios. Boy couldn't continue due to an injury he sustained months ago and he was limping in the 2nd round. The referee had to stop the fight.

GKCFiST writes:

What's the result of tonight's event?? Anyone has it? I hope Bunkerd's son, Boy, won his rematch against Jose Palacios under muay thai rules this time.

GKCFiST writes:

What the heck??!!!! How did Bunkerd's son lost???????!!!!!! NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! Can't believe that!

That was before I found out what really happened. Nice job doing the cut and paste by the way.

GKCFiST writes:

Can't we all just get along with one rule which allows everything for any styles of kickboxers?

I like seeing video clips of what they had in the old days, when they had American kickboxer fighting a Muay Thai stylist. Those were entertaining to watch.

GaryC168 writes:

There should be muay thai vs. full contact karate rules like they did back in the days. Check out the pictures below, those are pretty entertaining bouts to watch and no one will get bored and get along.

GKCFiST/GaryC168 = same guy, Writes :


What the heck??!!!! How did Bunkerd's son lost???????!!!!!! NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!! Can't believe that!

Can't we all just get along with one rule which allows everything for any styles of kickboxers?

I like seeing video clips of what they had in the old days, when they had American kickboxer fighting a Muay Thai stylist. Those were entertaining to watch.

Actually it's kind of bad for the sport of kickboxing to see so many different rules. That's probably one of the reason why kickboxing isn't as popular as boxing or MMA. The sport needs to be united and not separated with so many different funky rules. You have people wearing long pants, chunky-o-funky looking boots, and so on. When people go to an event for the first time, you will definitely hear things like: " Okay, another rule changes? this is confusing me. Kicks above the waist only??! How come the last bout, everything was allowed? What's up with those funky shoes and the pajama pants? etc. etc. "

So it's better to have an event with just one rule and not so many funky rules that's confusing the heck out of people who is new to watching kickboxing. Think about why so many people watches boxing and MMA more then kickboxing, it's because of the confusion. Until then!

What the hell? Okay kids, nice assumption there.