looking for boxers to box on ebf shows , from novice to advanced fighters all around britian .

52/54kg ;)

amature or pro?

We hold regular shows in Dumfries, Scotland and would be keen to get some of our Boxers on any away shows going, however I am not keen on holding EBF shows ourselves due to the rules on purses, officials etc.

Is there any specific shows you are looking to get guys matched up for??

Our guys are mainly all Novice with 6 fights or less each.

hi guys its semi pro [unlicenced boxing on pro kickboxing shows ]

the ebf is always looking for fighters ,the ebf have shows every week and most of the time 2 and 3 times a aweek all around britian .

please email me your fighters details and i will pass them on to all the ebf promoters around britian .

i also do ebf shows every 8 to 10 weeks in rotherham south yorkshire . i have novice and advanced fighters .

hi scott allan yes i have 2 lads at your weight 1 is a pure novice only just started so it will be next year when he has is first fight ,wot is your record in kickboxing .

is there any girls in your gyms at 9 and half stone ,to match up with sam smith from leeds . her fight record is 10 boxing bouts .

scott allan,iv just looked at your profile you have lots of fights lol in kickboxing so for me to match you up would be with someone who as had about 4 boxing matches ,thats if you havnt boxed befor !!! iv got a lad at 10 stone who as had 4 boxing bouts who i could match you with ,he is 18 years old .

ask your trainer or manager if others would be interested in boxing from your gym and i will see if i can match them up with mine and we can do england v scotland ebf show .

just read back through the thred ,you are only 54 kilo i think its about 8 stone ? my lad is too heavy for you ,how old are you i might have someone els for you .

I have a few juniors of similar weights on my shows. Let me know if interested.

actionpromo do you have a fighter by the name of mick crossland under you ? i read on another thred that if any promoter was interested in having mick on there show to contact you ,is this right .

I've had 23 full contact kickboxing lost 3 i've had 30/35 odd boxing fights lost 10 4 k-1 fight 0 loss :)

Scott

Bridie - Did you?
Know Mick is not one of my fghters, in fact, i have only ever chatted with Mich a few times via facebook. He most def is not my fighter, though someone of Mick's talent would most definitely be welcome... I have tried to get Mick onto a show in Las Vegas for another promoter, but so far that has went quiet.

* 'No Mick'

Bridie: Here's the links to the Vegas show i spoke to Mick briefly about:
http://www.maafights.com/

http://ikaskickboxing.com/

mick crossland was my fighter .

Well i don't know where you got the idea that i said he was my fighter. Speak with Mick and he'll tell you i only ever asked him about the show i mentioned above. But he is a bloody good fighter with good prospects... I know it's a relatively unknown body bu i would like to give him the opportunity to fight for an IKA Intercon or world title next year if he was interested.

lol im just reading your post and its making me laugh ,mick isnt with me anymore so i cant answer for him . but i would think knowing mick as i do the world title shot would sound great to him .ps how many rounds is it ? 3x2 lol

scott how old are you .

3x2's?? Details are on the website: http://ikaskickboxing.com/regulations.php

How come he isn't with you anymore?

PS
I take it you are not interested in getting your lads on our shows, Bridie as not heard back. No problem.

mick thought the grass was greener on the other side lol but he has not proved it yet .

the reson i asked about the rounds was because mick is not good at long distance ,and you said world title .

Mick is now fighting under fight unit barnsley in conjection with Jesters matlock , feel free to contact me on jestersgym@hotmail.co.uk

Bridie get a grip ! Mick moved on because he wasnt happy ! if u have any problems contact me direct instead of making yourself look bitter on here !

il fight on ebf shows :P 67 kg or 69/70 max! ive had about 20 0dd full contact bouts.. no boxing experience
contact stewartdotcom@hotmail.com

Are there any rules against bearded fighters?

bridie i aint being funny but sure i was at an ebf show in liquid in dundee and u got beat from a raw novice for a british title?! Genna Murray??? Very surprising! Rumour said u had thrown that fight??? Thats not what we need for the fight sport!!! I say now u aint got a fighter in the ebf who will come close to Scott Allan... That 10 stone thing made me chuckle :P Where would i be if i had to fight in the ebf? I had a few fights but mainly on the street :)

Kalida: Doubt it, half the women that fight on the unlicensed circuit have beards ha.

ronni clark ,EBF fighters are easy to check out just look on there web site or google them . not sure wot you mean when you say where would you be if you had to fight on the EBF shows ? .[ explain ]

also wot do you mean about the EBF dont have fighters who can come close to scott allan ? [explain ]

my fight with that girl ,you have it all wrong .

the girl had been an amature boxer then turned semi pro ,and thinking of turning pro .
i didnt go up to dundee to have a fight i went up at last min ,i had fought the night before in oriental rules with michelle newhall , i simply went because her oppenant had pulled out last min . i am part of the EBF and i will help promoter that are also part of the EBF . the girl weighed 60 kilo i was 50 kilo the title was not my weight catagory so there was nothing lost there for me .


call it wot you like ,i didnt throw it cos i dint want it ,i was just there so the show could still go ahead ,it was the main event . i did a favour to a lot of people if you like including the girl i fought ,she got to fight on the night .

we do need people like me in the sport ,get real and stop been up your own ass .

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actionpromo there is no beard on me nor any of the other fighters iv fought . iv seen pictures of you so lol dont call us unlicenced women !!!!!

ronni let me no if you are up for a fight with a EBF fighter and i will put it on my show lol any style you like ,im not sure wot style you fight ,is it just full contact kb you do !!!

the EBF have got lots of good top fighters in any style of fighting .

let me no when you are ready and i will get it on .

snail my oppinion about mick as got nothing to do with you , nor am i bitter !!!! i was asking if mick was fighting under action promotions becaue you had stated on another thred to contact you or action promo IF INTERESTED IN MICK CROSSLAND FIGHTING ON SHOWS !!!! YOUR WORDS .

mick crossland as been asking dragonfootpromotions for the EBF phone number because he wants some boxing fights .FACT

it would seem no body realy knows who to phone lol .

i have never posted anything about contacting action promo and im fully aware of mick being available for ebf and other boxing shows to keep him busy its a subject we are both looking into for him. But if the ebf are paying fighters to go down i think well give it a miss


Bridie you typed :mick thought the grass was greener on the other side lol but he has not proved it yet .

the reson i asked about the rounds was because mick is not good at long distance ,and you said world title .

Maybe you didnt type it that way but how ever you read it it reads bitter !

a world title in kickboxing is 10 or 12 rounds ,i wasnt sure if it was a kickboxing title .

the EBF Iis not interested in people going down on one knee ,we want fighters to get in and have a fight .

i have 8 EBF boxers who have got 30 fights under there belts through the EBF some they win and some they dont thats how it is in any fight game ,you cant win them all .

its a load of shit about this going down on one knee thing ,my fighters have never gone down on one knee they are too proud for that .

action promos as said that his 2 friends fight for the efb and they was asked to go down on one knee lol thats up to them wot they do its not my buisness but iv never seen it happen on EBF shows that iv been involved in .

if mick wants some boxing bouts there is work for him every week through the EBF ,fair fights and a fair dessision .

look up shaun law on utube he fought in blackpool against jordon black ,jordon was on his own show ,shaun was the away corner but shaun got the dessision that night because he won ,so the ebf is not like actions promo says it is ,the ebf is a fair game just look on the net and you will see that .


however i will state this ,mick is not a boxer so he needs to train as a boxer if he wants boxing fights with the ebf or any other boxing promotion .

the EBF have lots of great fighters why the f***K would they go down on one knee lol it makes me laugh .

iv seen fighters fight journey men before and get title belts and it wasnt on a EBF show lol you dont want me to start mentioning names believe me you dont .

snail mick did think the grass was greener on the other side ,you say he was unhappy with us lol why would he be unhappy with dragonfoot gym after everything we did for his fight carrea ,did i or jon do him any wrong at any time he was with us ,NO we did not we looked after mick .

wot as mick done since leveing dragonfoot gym ,NOTHING is wot mick as done .

thats the only thing im bitter about thae fact he as done f**K all since moving on .
when i look at all the fighters in my gym and how they progress and wot great fighters they have turned out to be ,it makes me sad to think wot mick could have been but no mick thought the grass was greener on the other side .

as far as im concerned mick got left behined .

one more thing snail you dont need to get mick boxing fights to keep him busy there is plenty of fighters out there willing to fight mick without him having to box to stay busy .

i proved that when dragonfoot and i put the thred up looking for fighters for mick crossland . there was plenty of fights for him in kickboxing or low kick or k1 .

also you did say if anyone was interested in having mick on shows to contact you or action promos ,it was on the thred you had removed .

ronni about that fight of mine you saw .how did you score it !!! bare in mind it was a 3x2 min fight and the girl got a standing count in the first round . maybe other people would think i won that fight and just didnt get the dessision that night mmmm i wounder did she win or did she not .

ok now im sick if reading ur tiresome rants to yourself so this will be my last post !

Mick left dragonfoot because he wasnt happy (u want details speak to mick) after he left he won anmd lost various bouts but took a credible brittish title of a credible champion and travelled to france to fight for a world title .

Bridie in my opinion and many others ur a self obsessed joke and one of the reason people dont post on here anymore , get a grip

Bridie:
Firstly, my bearded lady comment wasn't aimed at anybody in particular and was in fact only a joke, so for you to get personal with me is a bit of a joke in itself - I do hope you did not attempt to upload a picture of myself as that would be taking it too far!

Secondly; I can't and won't comment on Mick Crossland as i have never met him or spoke to him on the phone. The only contact i had with him was a few emails/facebook messages (which he replied to, unlike yourself). I don't have any business with Mick at all at present.

I don't like to make things personal, and i shall stick by my morals on that and i won't get into a slagging match with you.

Lastly, you contradict yourself slightly regarding boxers going down! First you say it doesn't happen, then you say if the people i know do it then that's up to them! So is it a coincidence that when they've done it it's been on EBF shows? The same EBF that you claim it doesn't happen on??

I think i've done speaking with you Bridie as you seem to take everything too seriously and get too personal about stuff, which shows a lot of tell tale signs about someone.

snail you are the tiresome joke following me around on ax trying to back mick crossland up . as far as to wot mick as achieved while been with you over the past couple of years is poor compared to wot my fighters have achieved over the past year ,just take a look at shaun law ,shaun goodyear,leon white, keetha bently,graham blackwell and the rest of my fighters .

one more thing snail i did this post to advertize the EBF and its working well the text and phone calls keep coming and the EBF keeps growing bigger and bigger ,there is no need for people to post anything because they have my number and email.

i dont need any details of mick as to why he left i already no lol its because i started to make him live up to his fight record . we can all look good on paper and we can all get a couple of easy wins but eventulley we have to live up to wot we have been portrayed to be !!!!! mmmm thats the hard part .

you say im a self obcessed joke to you and others lol who are the others you talk about ???? . maybe you are the joke .

actionpromo the reson you have done talking to me is because you have tried manny times to poach me of the EBF through ax and by email ,and its not worked ,im loyal to the EBF , i think you now no that .

no i didnt try upload a pic of you lol it was a pic of me to show you there is no beard on me ,as part of your joke , now who is the one taking things too serious .

you was the first to come on the EBF post that my brother dragonfoot put up and slag it of and tell about your friends going down on one knee lol your friends not mine , iv never seen such a thing been done on the EBF shows ,the only thing i no about that is wot you have told me .

you also told me you wanted your 2 friends to fight on your show lol did you spit the dummy out because your friends was fighting and going down on one knee for the EBF and you wanted them to go down on one knee on your show ,is that why you are so against the EBF .

just remember action you was the first to slag the EBF of ,all iv done is back them up . you probably didnt count on me been here to defend them did you .

actionpromo i could have worked along side of you with the EBF had you not viciously attact the EBF the way you did . you attact wot i proudly repercent ,wot responce did you think you was going to get of me for doing so .

think about our first conversation on ax ,think about who was the first to dish the dirt , YOU WAS i simply dished it back at you .

Bridie, you are trying to get some sort of dirt on me when there is none. I have nothing to hide.

1) You say i tried to 'poach you'?
Poach you for what exactly? I dont want you to coach anybody, or sanction with us, i simply offered to work together on a show. Not exactly poaching is it? Though that doesn't matter as you couldn't be bothered to even reply.

2) I got the wrong end of the stick regarding the photo upload - sorry, but re-reading the post it comes across as if you tried, and seeing as i have a lot of personal family pics on fb you can understand me being a little p'd off. And after looking at your photo's i can now testify that you don't have a beard. A small tash however is questionable! (ha, joke)

3) I acknowledge i was the first to throw the shit at the EBF, but if you do your own research you will see that what i said is common place. Simply put, the home-town 'star', the ticket seller and usually local 'hard-man', nearly always tends to win his fights by dodgy decision, or dive. As i said, ask about on the quiet and you will find out. I know you don't, or don't want to, believe me but it's true.

4) I don't do dives on my shows, that i am very staunch about. I believe in true sportsmanship and think that the best fighter should win, not the ticket seller. So don't try to chuck dirt at me saying i wanted my mates on my show to fix it, just not true, though neither of us can prove otherwise.

Anyway, i just heard the EBF are re-branding to:

EBF - European Boxing Fallovers :)

like i said action look at the fight with shaun law and jordon black ,it was held in blackpool in jordons terrortory and jordon is a good ticket seller ,jordon lost and shaun won ,it was a close desission but the EBF gave it to shaun as he just edged it in his favour .

i would never put a pic up of you on ax so dont worry about that ,after all you have seen my pics on face book too and there is a couple that i would not want all over ax so i would not do to anyone wot i wouldnt want doing to me ,it was a pic of me looking all posh in my suit.

you must like the banter with me on ax lol your last statment about the EBF tells so . you no i wont leve it alone and neither will you .

my fighters are EBF fighters and they are great fighters who fight hard fights ,they are good lads promo ,real good lads who have fought good and hard to achieve wot they have so please dont call them fallovers . if you like the banter with me then please keep it aimed at me :-]

i actually do believe that you believe in true sports manship and so do i ,my fighters prove that .

a bit of good banter wouldnt go a miss :-] promo i am also a bauty therapist ,i groom regulary it is my job ,i can confirm 100% i dont have a tash nor beard .behind the tough girl is a very girly girl .

Ha yeah bridie we know ur a girly girl the welsh lads showed us some photos after night u were meant to be fighting n dundee with lezleyanne magregor! :P u got one pity god damn fine body ;)

I aint interested in the white collar as i am boxing amateur at the moment and few people i know lost amateur card through the ebf... watch back both shows that been in liquid in dundee quality was total pants! i was embarrassed to be there! also the guy who promoted the show david stevenson said u were doing it as a favour standing in against jenna and u were getting paid to let her win!!! That was bad i thought!!!

I suppose its a fight sport though ur gonna get it anywhere and also if u got fighters for full contact to fight me sure i aint refuse to fight them on a recognised show though most probably! :)

yes thats true about the amateur boxing they dont like you to box white collar or unlicenced but many fighters do it all the same and most do get away with it . in the EBF we have amateur and pro fighters in boxing ,cage,k1,kickboxing .

i no a couple of people who have been kicked out of the amateurs through unlicenced but i no 100 more who get away with it week in week out .

im not into the amateur boxing because i beleive that fighters should get paid ,at the end of the day someone is making money weather its amateur or pro money is being made by someone
and fighters should be making money .

that show of davids was a novice show so you cant realy expect too much from novices ,even my lads was first time fighters that night so i think david did his best real.

personaly i think genna was the best boxer out of there team i thought genna was great . it was her first time fighting without a head guard so no way was i going to go beat her up ,im not like that ,she needed a fighter to fight short notice and it was short notice lol i was the only one who could go down last min.

and to be honest i dint no it was for a title till i got there or i would have asked for more money lol .i got paid 350 to fight genna ,not bad if you ask me for 3x2 boxing ,i no i wasnt going to get the win and im not bothered about that like i said it was gennas first time without the head guard so i wasnt going to bully anyone .

the only reson i hit her hard in the first round was to slow her down a bit ,she was 60 kilo and i was 50 kilo and im no punch bag for nobody and genna was fighting aggresive so i just slowed her down a bit in the first round .

genna is a good girl and i dont mind helping girls in boxing because there isnt enough of us ,we fight who is in front of us because there is no choice .

genna was a brave girl and a good fighter ,the only thing that f****S me of with this fight is it dont look good on genna and she dont deserve this shit it was not her fault her fighter pulled out last min and she had sold tickets and trained hard for her fight .NOT GENNAS FAULT .

titles should not be given out on a 3x2 min fight that i do agree on and like i said i dint no it was a title fight lol why would i ,all i got told was 3x2 boxing match .

i could have demanded more money when i found out but im not like that ,i will help were i can when it comes to fighting .

iv not herd anything from genna since that day how is she doing with her fighting .

she retired after that fight... got back into training to defend her belt nd got beaten from another novice :P one fight and brittish champion and in papers next fight on her ass... lmao talking about her fighting in olympics lmao

come on ronnie you cant be that hard on the girl she was a good lass and fought well that night . im sorry she quit training she told me it was her life and she loved it .

iv seen many micky mouse belts been given out over the years iv been fighting ,it is a shame but wot can we do but prove who we are . it will always happen .

all i can say in gennas defence is she could have been a good boxer and i really thought she would have turned out good .

also in genna,s defence ,iv seen fighters get title belts just because the fighter dint turn up that day lol you must no that happens ,a title by default !!!! genna wanted to fight for her belt its wot she had been trained to do . it want her fault or her managers fault nor the EBF fault .

all the EBF did was provied a fighter for genna and her supporters .

you no there is not many girls that will fight last min ,there is not enough woman fighters full stop .

genna could have took that belt without getting in the ring by default but she didnt ,she fought instead .

How do you justify a 'title' shot after only one or two bouts?

How does a sanctioning body justify it?


In my opinion, regardless of sport be it boxing, kickboxing, whetever, a sanctioning body should not be involved in promoting their own shows. Conflict of interest.

Let's face it - all the unlicensed bodies are just created and run by promoters and this is why they will never be seen as anything serious. The BBBofC don't promoter their own shows, independent promters organise them and the santioning body is then able to remain impartial in regulating. Unlicensed boxing organisations, whether EBF or not, are all just mickey mouse pretending to be sanctioning bodies. On a side note: In a lot of states in America it is illegal for sanctioning bodies to promoter their own shows (as in be the promoter).

Sorry for going off on a tangent but i think that unlicensed boxing titles should not be taken serious at all.

genna had previous fights with head guard so action you dont no wot her fight record is ,i said i was the first to fight genna without the head guard so get your facts right before going of on one with me .

it says in the artical i was the hardest fight she had had and it was the first time she had fought without the head guard .

you didnt see genna fight ,well let me tell you this i hit genna hard and she got a standing count in the first round so dont think for one min that she got it easy .

look at a girls boxing record and see how many fights they have under there record ,it wont be many i can tell you ,so dont go shooting this girl down promo cos you dont even no her .

look on the net at my boxing match bridie murphy v naomi jackman

and you will see genna dint have it easy in the ring , i might not have been on top form due to fighting the previous day but like i said i ant no punch bag for no body ,one more thing i dont waist my shots when i throw them . genna got hit in that fight .

my boxing record is 15 bouts so iv boxed most girls there is in uk and i will tell you this genna was a good fighter .

ok she dint last long but most girls dont in boxing due to the fact there it many .[FACT]

ACTIONPROM have you not been on the thred about micky mouse belts ,peoples oppinion is this ,its the fight you do for the belt that makes it credible . so thats a load of bull shit you have just come out with .

some of my best fights have been unlicenced fights ,so who are you to say who should have belts and who shouldnt .

does an org make a belt credible or is it the fight you do for it .[ITS THE FIGHT YOU DO FOR IT]. how can an org make a belt credibile lol it cant there is too many .

there is too many belts out there already ,its only the fight you do that separates all the champions .

who are you or anybody to say weather genna can have a belt or not ,every body els as got one why shouldnt she ,as far as im concernd she should have one .

i did state a title belt should not be given on 3 rounds but who am i to say who should not have one .im just me and me cant make that much differance on my own ,if it was my way there would only be one org but its not my way is it so i decide who i think should have a belt or not ,but it dont mean to say they have one .

my fighters have to fight hard fights on my shows ,shaun law as got 30 boxing bouts under his belt and he is only just boxing for a title on my show . i can control who as a title on my show but cant do anything about anybody els show .

iv fought 3,10 rounds fights on my own show and dint get the dessision and 2 of them was with the real world champ rita takach so dont go getting on your high horse with me actionpromo ,infact iv never won a fight on my show so take that up your pipe and smoke it .

iv had 4 fights on my own show and iv never got the dessision . iv seen lesser fighters walk away with belts when they dint earn them or deserve them . iv had it hard in this game i got nothing given to me ,i had to fight hard for it just like my lads do . WE NO WHO WE ARE AND WHO WE HAVE FOUGHT .

i got my belts on away shows and in other countrys so i think we can understand i had to fight hard to get them .they dont give them away if they dont have to .

action you no about the B.L.C.B british light contact boxing that dragonfoot is doing so you no we are trying to make it better for the kids and up and coming boxers .

things take time but im willing to ride the storm and see it through so is dragonfoot .we can only try make things better .

loads of people talking abot the same s**t here on ax ,we all want things to be differant but we all still have to deal with the s**T we have got .

i think its down to the promoters and fighters to make it better not the orgs ,we dont need them if us promoters and trainers ,managers get a grip . like i said my champs on war dogs shows and dragonfoots shows are real ,well if they win there fights on 3rd december they will be champs in boxing .

i will proudly put there fights on ax for all to see .thats me and dragonfoot doing our good deede for the day .

maybe thats should be the rule between us all , put the title fights up for all to see ,then lets see how many champs we have and dont have .

Bridie, i think you are a tad paranoid. I was not referring to you, unless i got the wrong end of the stick. I simply said that a title shot should not be given to someone who has only had one fight - i was under the impression it was this Genna that had only one prior fight (without headguard) and was awarded a title shot? Am i wrong? Now to me, what sort of person allows this ? Fighting with headgear is different to non-headgear in my opinion, to me it's a difference between an amateur and a pro, or a novice and a pro. Again, am i wrong?

Also, sports need regulating to some degree. By this i mean you need governing or sanctioning bodies to insist on a set of standards and criteria to meet ni order to 'deserve' a title shot. I mean you wouldn't have taken Audley Harrison straight from being an Olympic champion to allowing him a British title shot on his second pro bout would yo?

You are right it is the fighters that make the title, but who says who deserves a title shot? It should not be the promoters to decide, it should be the sanctioning bodies, and fighters should earn their right. Now if a promoter runs a sanctioning body then they can pretty much do what they wish regarding who fights who, and for which title. Don't you agree? It is these sorts of organisations what i referred to as Mickey Mouse, NOT the title belts.

Finally, i can't comment on the Light Contact Boxing thing that Dragonfoot is working on, only to say it seems a good idea for the juniors, as long as it doesn't harm their chances with the ABA's. ALso i think there is a big difference between light contact and full contact, so i think it's good to offer a safer opportunity for youngsters - this i have never slated otherwise.

Going back to sanctioning bodies - a proper body should also remain impartial when regulating sports - again this is not always the case when a promoter has total control, like all the unlicensed 'bodies' do. I cannot think of one unlicensed boxing body that does not promote their own shows and simply regulates it - this is what sanctioning/governing bodies should do.

Bulls**t... Because everyone else had a belt so should genna have had one??? lmao!!! In my own humble opinion "There is too many cheifs and not enough indians" I actually cant be bothered with this topic anyway i made my point i am sure ;)

Much Respect
Ronnie

lol thats wot im saying there is too many already and there is nothing we can do about it ,im just working with the rules iv got . just take a look at the state its in now , i dint do it ,i ended up in it and now im working through it .

governing bodys lol iv just spent 15 years working with governing bodys in pro fighting and its a big joke .
its because of them that we are in this mess ,they wont join and things wont change so you can keep saying wot should be till the cows come home ,me im just getting on with it and its all good for me .

you keep fighting the politics on wot they should be and i will just keep working with wot is .

the funny thing is iv saide all the stuff you are saying before and it dont make things change ,it never will .

iv gone through it as a fighter and now im going through it as a promoter and manager . and the too dont think alike [FACT]

PROMOTION IS VERY DIFFERANT TO FIGHTING ,TOO DIFFERANCE OF OPINIONS.

we have, fighters ,promoters,managers,fans, here on ax so i dont think its all going to be a bed of roses do you , fool if you think it would be .

i keep hearing the word WATERED DOWN VERSION OF !!! and the words RULES KEEP CHANGING .

we will still be hearng them words 10 years from now .NOTHING WILL CAHNGE .

ronnie clark wot i dont understand is you was in gennas corner when i fought her and you new the situation at the time so how come you was on gennas team [corner] and you are so against her now ? on the night in mention you was all for the fight to take place .