i have put many pictures of rob kaman and peter smit here on the axboard,here are a few other dutch fighters.
the first is ramon dekkers,for me the best dutch fighter on muay thai rules.

orlando wiet

ernesto hoost

frank lobman

gilbert ballentinie

ryan simson

jan wessels

ivan hippolyte

hassan ettaki

dear dirk,

I think we have to remember "brilleman"...(at his time he was one of the pioneers in holland...)according to my understanding, if he would be in life , he would not let the first place to anyone so easy during his fight carreer...

do you have any pictures from him?...

Vathorst was my favourite.

dear dirk,

and also "muzaffer yamali" ...he was an excellent fighter..

however, I see that most of the pictures of the fighters brought by you are belonging to the still current fighting people...

I have never seen Lobman fight, but I have read interviews. Was he as good as he seemed to say he was?
Also remember the vicious ko Orlando Weit received in UFC?
Great photos and makes you think how many great fighters have come from Holland.

Weit also delt out a vicious beating in the first UFC. He elbowed a guy half to death.

Brilleman was a fantastic fighter. If I recall, he beat American Howard Jackson in his last fight and then was killed in a bar while working as a doorman. Who knows what hights he would have reached had he lived.

yes , andre brilleman was a great fighter,he's for me the best welterweight ever in the history of dutch kickboxing.

andre ,,the mean machine,, brilleman

great pics! Any more Dekker? or Noel Van Der Huevel?
Lieuwfat?
Kassirioui?

rick van de vathorst

muzaffer yamali

fred royers

michael lieuwfat

hassan kassrioui

noel v/d heuvel vs hassan kassrioui

Great shots,any shots of Dekker and Ballintine.
Thats a nice shot of Brilleman leg kicking American Howard Jackson,tragic end to his life though,didn't they find him in a 44 gallon drum?they ever get the guys who did it?

frank,,the animal,,lobman (and nong-o he was a good fighter! very good!!!)

rob kaman , the best dutch fighter

ivan sprang

lucien carbin , one of the very first champions(now trainer of gilbert yvel)

gerard gordeau

lucia rijker

andre mannaart

mousid

brian pieters

peter,,hurricane,,smit

do you know why the dutch fighters were superior then the others and started in actual kick boxing and thai boxing?...

ı think due to one simple reason :"effectivness&domination of kyokushin karate at that time in holland!..(bluming's efforts in kyokushin...)"

although most of the kyokushin guys never and still not accepting the reality that the kicks,blocks,knees are derivated from "muay thai", it is correct that they have taken from this discipline and put to themselves...so, it was easy for most dutch pioneers to switch first to kick boxing with low-kicks (japanese type,kurosaki gym )...as example ,if ı am not mistaken "lucien carbin" was an excellent kyokushin fighter...

dear dirk,
do you have also some photos of "bayram çolak" and "tekin dönmez"...as far as ı remember they were also excellent fighters and champs...

hi ercan,i think your right !!! and how do you know so much about the dutch fighters ? well,here's a picture of tekin donmez,yes he was an excellent fighter!!! a fighter with a great fighting spirit.

bayram colak

milo el geubli

joao vierra

leo de snoo

hi klm,
you ask for more : ramon,,diamond,,dekkers

hi klm,
and you ask for more : gilbert ballentinie

tommy v/d berg

dear dirk ,
ı think ı am old enough and we have some friends also in turkey ...for your information, in turkey the thai boxing and kick boxing (with low kicks) picture is mostly impressed by the dutch fighting conjecture...there is of course a governemental kick boxing federation (tied on boxing federation) without low kicks...however, there are also two serious gyms in muay thai and kick boxing from 1980's still and we try to improve in a -class fight spirit , although there are many various troubles...(of course, in the dutch standarts, not watered down segments like seen everywhere...we know it is not so easy , but we will try our best...)

by the way, ı think van oss and faisal karakuş should be also remembered ...(not correct?)

marry christmas ....

Great shots Dirk,Holland was definately the pioneers of the sport in the west thanks to people like Jan Plas,Thom Harinck and Voss.
My favourite Dutch fighter would have to be Rammon Dekker, he inspired me to take up the sport.

branko cikatic

hi ercan ,
here's feisal karakus

peter van os

HI DIRK, have you any of the DUTCH and EURO: champion ? "tekin donmez" ? cheers sandy man holt u.k.m.t.a
www.thaiboxing.co.uk

hi sandy,i have tekin donmez already put on it !! go above and you find him !!

jan lomulder

perry ubeda

peter aerts

ı think sandy has had a fight against tekin (if ı am not mistaken, sandy had won the fight...)
was it so sandy?...

by the way, marry christmas ...

gerald mamadeus

luc verheye

corrine geeris

andre masseurs

a dutch bloke, colin masseurs, fought here in the uk last year, any relation??

What state is mt in holland at the moment??
I'm not clued up at all!! (as per usual!)
I know the dutch were for a long time considered the best outside thailand, but they seem to be "one of the best" now. No longer outright leaders. Well, from what i hear anyway.

Whats the history of mt in Holland??
Who are the top guys and gals there at the mo?

I've heard of Meijero, and Vos, what other camps are reknowned for their top quality fighters??

You got any pictures of vincent swaans??
I have few, but another couple wouldn't harm my collection :-)

toot toot.

DEAR ERCAN
yep i did ! TEKIN DONMEZ came to Manchester ENGLAND to defend his EUROPEAN TITLE and i had the TOUGHEST fights in my carear ! so much so he broke my arm with a knee in the 2nd round ! and again with a high roudhouse kick in the 4th: ! boy was he tough ! BUT it was my best fight ! and i owe it to him ! nice guy too !
cheers DIRK sorry ! didnt see it at first ( missed it sorry ! ) and thanks
sandy man holt u.k.m.t.a
www.thaiboxing.co.uk

dear tootslek,

ı think the conjecture in holland has gone deep interested in k-1, since there is a good award waiting ...so,if you consider also that the dutch people are big enough for this game, you ll easily trace the reality that the famous trainers are giving the most emphasize to k-1 rather than other competitions in less weights..by the way, ı think that the dutch people have been getting satisfied too much and the interest is going a bit down in publicum..
however, we have not to forget that the substructure of mt and kb is very well in holland and it will be not so difficult for them to incline the level again , if there is a good award waiting in other classes, as well...

francesco de brito

thanks Ercan.
So basically, there is more money in K1, so the promoters/trainers are pushing the heavyweights to K1, and not spending so much time on pushing the smaller mt fighters??

jos van beijnen

glen brasdorp

Dirk any pics of Gerbrand Takens.

i'm sorry bradley,i don't have.

hello from australa dirk great pictures do you have any of william van rossmalen

william van rosmalen

stjepan veselic

jerry morris

bolem bellaini

HOLLANDS CHAKURIKI FIGHTER "TEKIN DONMEZ" ! i fought him for his European super-featherweight muay-thai-boxing title / belt ! This was Undoubtably my hardest fight EVER ! you might spot in Tekins corner ? GILBERT BALLENTYNE ! and THOM HARRINKS son ! I found out later on ( years ) that THOM HARRINCK voted TEKIN the BEST CHAKURIKI fighter award ! dunno if this is true ? ! ? Either way he was a tough cookie ! MUCH respect to him !!
PICS; ME IN ACTION V TEKIN AS WE "shin clash"
RAISING EACH OTHERS HANDS ! ( me with Belt on ) !
jUMPING UP AND DOWN WITH THE EXCITEMENT AS THE jUDGES AWARDED IT A `5` X 3 MIN: ROUND WIN BY 2 JUDGES ! AND DUTCH JUDGE GAVE A DRAW !
a very PROUD and memorable day in my life !!!!!!!!!!!!
sandy man holt u.k.m.t.a

HOLLANDS CHAKURIKI FIGHTER "TEKIN DONMEZ" ! i fought him for his European super-featherweight muay-thai-boxing title / belt ! This was Undoubtably my hardest fight EVER ! you might spot in Tekins corner ? GILBERT BALLENTYNE ! and THOM HARRINKS son ! I found out later on ( years ) that THOM HARRINCK voted TEKIN the BEST CHAKURIKI fighter award ! dunno if this is true ? ! ? Either way he was a tough cookie ! MUCH respect to him !!
PICS; ME IN ACTION V TEKIN AS WE "shin clash"
RAISING EACH OTHERS HANDS ! ( me with Belt on ) !
jUMPING UP AND DOWN WITH THE EXCITEMENT AS THE jUDGES AWARDED IT A `5` X 3 MIN: ROUND WIN BY 2 JUDGES ! AND DUTCH JUDGE GAVE A DRAW !
a very PROUD and memorable day in my life !!!!!!!!!!!!
sandy man holt u.k.m.t.a

Alexandre Breck