Video Yokkao 8 KO: Brad Stanton vs Wayne Fisher at Supershowdown presents YOKKAO 8.

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wayne fisher didnt have a clue what to do in the clinch. at that level you need to have atleast basic knowledge of clinch mechanics. no wonder it finished so early. brad made it look asy because his team obviously knew this chink in waynes Armour

Saying he didn't have a clue is harsh. Brad is ace. Can't see anyone beating him at the mo

I want to see brad against turner or wootton

Different weights

Wasnt the liam fight at 65 and he was going to do the 8 man at 67

Yes greg was coming up to 65kg for that fight. Think the 8-man is 66. Brad cant get lower than 67kg, which is too high for Turner. Be interested to know what the match vs Boussoukou is at as i think he generally fights at 70kg so presume this match is made at 68 or 69kg?

mate but his arms were flailing about and he wasnt locking on! he could have tied him up. stanton is a killer agreed the fight would have lasted longer if that fisher lad had a decent clinch, if it had stayed on the out side it would have lasted a lot longer.

fisher is very sharp kicker and good on the outside clinch but when he gets close go goes to pot he never locks his hands

Got to agree with Paulinthailand on this - maybe it was stanton's so superior but it literally looked like he didn't have a clue what to do in the clinch. maybe that's just the way the fihgt played out/he got hurt early.

As side note Im still constantly amazed how little clinch a lot of people/gyms do. It means that people with half a clinch game, people who might not actually be any good can win fights easily. I understand not everyones Pakorn or Yodvicha, doesnt suit everyones style but you still got to know it so you can at least avoid it or neautralise it?

Even basic rudimentary clinch beats no clinch doesnt it or am I over simplifying things? what does everyone else think?

Biiiig finish

you nailed it matthew. we will never ever out clinch thai's they have some crazy kind of timing that feel the second your not ready i suppose it comes from years and years but to tie them up and take them down with you if they throw you is very achievable. what you do need to be doing is everything for a reason and always keeping as much contact as possible with pressure, you cant have an arm dangling down by your side doing nothing. to even "bear hug" atleast is doing something to stop them.

paulinthailand - id like to think that if people trained clinch here In the same way that they do in Thailand that "we" (I say we I don't actually mean me!) could hold "our" own in clinch or at least be comfortable in that range/style of fighting. I don't see why not? Just takes dedicated hours of clinch training. I suppose time constraints is one of the biggest problems here though isn't it?

no mate when you have clinched with the best clinchers it becomes very apparent that we will never ever catch up with them, iv clinched simon marcus a few times who is world number one at about 85kgs and iv done alright iv clinched ikusan wor santai who is 50 kgs size of you average 14 year old and been absolutely demolished ikusan isnt even a top stadium fighter hes fought in the stadiums but not at any level, we will never compete with them in that aspect. good clinch gyms in thailand have 1hr of cinch in the morning and one hour of clinch in the afternoon after training. after doing that for 10 years against other top quality clinchers they get this kind of knack, its the old none fighters that seem to be the best though the ones training the up coming/top fighters, my old coach attanchai pinsinchai was classed only as a B level stadium fighter but when you clinched him you had NOT A chance in the world of doing anything to him another guy i clinched of equal level to that is rajasak sor vorapin, you are putty in their hands. attanchai would make you think you were safe for a second then double you up so hard it would creak your back, all while using zero effort. iv clinched loads of the absolute top clinchers in the uk between 60-80kgs at one point or another and none come close. one lad that was very good that i was shocked with was a guy called domonic i think hes from jesse's gym but i also believe he had spent a few years in thailand fighting. the best ferrang clincher iv clinched with is a guy from america called glen cordoza he has a back ground in college wrestling and high level in bjj which certainly help in his understanding of the dynamics he also is the most athletic guy iv ever trained with actually between him and simon marcus, simon is incredibly athletic also

Who would you say are the UK's best clinchers?

For me, some notable ones are:

Darren O'Connor
Brad Stanton
Dean James
Greg Wooten
Dan Edwards
Panicos Yusef
Brian Totty
Josh Turbill

...and pretty much anyone from Superpetch and Team Tieu - all have a solid clinch game domestically in my opinion.

all the super petch lads as said including robinson are solid clinchers, anyone that has fought for tony m, daz looks very good clinch, wooton looks relentless rather than skilled although im sure he has skills in the clinch id say hes more of a grinder, dean is a very good clincher for his weight iv clinched with him a fair few times he has good ballance and very sharpe knee's. liam has a lot of tricks and nullifying techniques but with him being on the shorter side its hard for him to land knee's but has great judgement and speed with his elbows and does cut you nearly everytime. mate embree from canada who is also known as a great clincher but its not really his clinching thats that great more his long knee's they are equal to elite thai fighters long knees, maybe the best non thai long knee iv seen. still not one of these guys compares to attanchai pinsinchai or rajasak or even little 50kg ikusan, they just absolutely demolish you. vitali gurkov is a solid clincher with very sharp knee's. jordan is suprisingly strong clinching although he doesnt use it much in his fights, hes very solid. adam kayoom who i think in his first ever muay thai fight fought longsaonkram chuwattanna had a very strong clinch but also a background in mma. on the flip side then iv clinched with people that are even upto world champion level and they have been terrible, ifma gold champion dutch, czech, dubai, denmark, morroco, english and malay. rubbish. like matthew said earlier a good clinch game can be enough to take you all the way to the top he mentioned pakorn and yodwicha but i think he ment petboonchoo although im sure pakorn has great clinch. petboonchoo doesnt give people a chance just smothers them and knees, deislenoi was the super clinch though.

Fair enough, I take your point, I tried to touch on it, the time element makes a huge difference, time spent doing it obviously and who you clinch with/trains you how to do it.hahaha I did mean boonchu your right! I always enjoyed watching lerdsilla and Pajonsuk. Im not sure they necessarily what you'd class as clinch fighters but they throw people with such unbelievable ease its frightening. I got to say I havn't seen any UK fighters whose clinch actually stood out to me? I have only seen that gurkov fight once or twice but now you mention it he did seem to be a strong clincher.

I was never a fighter but always loved training muay thai. Clinching was always my favourite bit, tried to clinch whenever and where ever possible. Iv now got 2 herniated disks in my neck and osteophites pinching nerves around my spine and got told to never train combat sports again. I know 2 other guys in a very similar predicament. I think starting muay thai later in life and our climate do not lend themselves very well to excessive clinching! just my opinion

It was Dominic Heydon Paul, he was more trained by Woking Thai before i started Shin Kick. He was very underrated. He was trained by Pedang at WMC.

very strong clincher! i hadnt littrally trained for 2 years but felt his strength and technique right away

Going back to the point of how little clinching some gyms do I went to one gym, attended 15 sessions and only in two did we focus on clinching (wasn't even mentioned in the others).
And that's the reason I don't go there anymore

First time I trained at Lukprabart Kru Tong said ok everybody clinching,all the top guys got in the ring including Wutidet and lunglernlek,I started to climb in and the kru told me no I had to stay with the boys on the outside,I was proper peeved until I saw the champs clinch,would of been a waste of their time and mine really as I wouldnt of been on my feet long,I clinched with the 50kg guys and they were throwing me to and I was 65kgs,this was around 9 years ago and I like to think Ive progressed since but Paul is correct they are that good.

I had another experience at the same time period in a camp in or near Tak I clinched all the boxers from 50kgs up and they all threw me easily,I then watched a older Thai who was a bit overweight/out of shape jump in and murder all the boxers in the clinch easily! I spoke to him after the clinch sesh and it was Sampson Issarn lol,he then gave me the line they all give "can you take me to England" and that of course is what has been needed! good Thais to teach all clinch skills,we have to do it the hard way and go and get it,one thing Im not certain of is how good Diesel Nois clinch skills were,sounds daft I know but to me it was his height/weight ratio that gave him the edge,of course he was a great clincher but at same height as the others perhaps he wouldnt of stood out?.

One of my favs was Langsuan proper Mr mean,nowadays I love Petboonchu:)

Paul Pearson should write a book!

A joke book Matthew lol:)

that would be good as well!!

see there are clinchers and knee guy, seanchai is a great clincher but not a knee'er where as deisle noi wasa destructive knee'er, seachai can land you on your head without thinking about it but doesnt score with knee

Actually sick with what I just read on here...stop taking and go fuckin do it then...not even like this is a discussion board anymore where loads of people talk....if your understanding is that good go fuckin do it. At a level. Come back then talk....Lunney your my mate I know you done it in Thailand against good fighters, and basically trained me a bit tbh...Matt you ain't done shit...you shout your mouth off non stop take people down, take shows down, get fucked. Go do somat yourself man. Your a straight bellend. It's a shame you actually know what your on about most times

i dont know where that come from mate. i never said a bad word about you in my life. where have i shouted my mouth off, where have i shot down shows. and where have i been a straight bellend? looks like iv lost another mate! fucking weird way to go that was!

get fucked. Go do somat yourself man. Your a straight bellend


im a straight fucking bellend? thats shout my mouth off, fuck yourself mate. i dont see one thing on this thread that would make you say that we have been mates for years, what upset you so much there, who have i shouted my mouth off to im done cheers li take about u-turn

paulinthailand i think you need to read what liam said again mate bcoz i dont think hes talking to you.

my bad i read matt as mate! he almost made me cry with that, me and liam have been good mates for years i thought thats very unusual! to be fair in matts favor here i agree with him on pretty much everything

Paulinthailand that's a slight over reaction maybe you should read what's been wrote. Although Liam will know your true feelings now lol

i wasnt really gonna cry! i was just tring to make him feel guilty!

You've got issues

why?

i was joking, people have been telling me to stay away from here for ages, good people. i think im done! most of the twats went away. and talk got quite good but fuck it im done!

£2.50 bet says you are back.

Wtf. Did you get your period or something? Not sure why a small discussion about clinching has got you so wound up. I very much respect and like your fighting abilities Mr harrison aside from the weight making issues your fantastic to watch and your very experienced but as a person your a cock. Like you feel about me I think your a total gobshite. Iv never claimed to have done anything. I for the record very often.prefix my posts by saying I'm.no.fighter and I don't know shit. Quite happy with it, I'm a grown.man with kids I can't fuck around fighting thai.boxing's because as great as the sport is its completely ludicrous to do as a job. Aside from that im nearly 40 my.bodies completely ruined I couldn't train mt if I wanted to. I couldn't fight my way out of a wet paper bag. So listen take your dress off, start fighting in.your correct weight class and then go fuck yourself

While we're having a little titty fit Liam tell me exactly who and what shows have I slagged off publicly that gets your knickers so twisted? Because I honestly don't know I'm doing it. Iv only been to 2 shows.in a year. The last yokkao which i really enjoyed except for the standing issues. And I went main event which I said was a great run show great venue great atmosphere the only opinion i voiced was that I bought tickets to watch you and Wooton, Panicos a doc and mcallister stanton.so I was very disappointed that I didn't see those
fights I think there all fair comments to be fair.

Read the thread havent got a clue why Liam has taken the hump very strange.

Maybe it's to much time spent around his arrogant cousin and it's running off on him.

ive seen a 16 stone ex-SBS bloke who was bodyguard for quite a few Hollywood A listers, had a 400lb benchpress on him, seen him ragdolled by a 65kg thai.

Its insane how good they are at unbalancing people. and also their grip strength. like fucking chimpanzees lol.

very photogenic steven

lol u filthy cunt