Alan this isn't something im putting to mix this whole thing up or take side's etc,etc but as Liam said earlier, Liam Rob is a good mate of ours as you prob well no, as is Tony. But there judging is not biased IMO as they have both judged me and Liam on the same bill and the fights went against us. Tony's lads come up to our gym every now and again to spar with us and we go down to them, as i do with many other gyms, ie Dave Jackson Warrington Muay Thai, Daz Phillips GFC, and in the past Mike and Trix's Wicker Camp. We have good friends at all these gyms Andy Thrasher,Scott Quigg,Martin Shivnen,Lee CHesters,Imran Khan,Christian Da Paulo, and many many more i could go on for ages, but we have fought lads from there gyms and also had people from there gyms judge us, ie Dave judged me against trainor in our last meeting and gave it to Damien. My point is this really, i just don't agree they are biased, Liam R and Tony judged my fight with Kantipong of Thailand on last years Muay Thai Superfights, when the desicion was given you could here nothing but boo's and i was in wolerhampton and we had maybe 150 people we had sold tickets to, the whole crowd did not agree with the desicion, i too was a bit gutted but as you say you no yourself when you have won/lost a fight. I thought that i had poss done enuff to earn a draw but Kantipong won. Now if Tony and Liam R where biased would they have scored what was thought to be the best and closest fight of the year against there FRIEND??? You wouldnt have thought so but they remained proffesional despite there friendship with myself and scored as Muay Thai should be. I do think that Liam R was actually quite aroused by the hideous left leg that was whacking across my arm every 5 seconds,lol. Soz for the massive post as my point could have been made alot earlier,lol soz lads and lasses.