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alan keddle
Posted: 2006-08-23 14:22:22
Blimey, it has been two days and I havent posted! a few interesting points.
It absolutely amazing that people continue to refer to the two judges in the fight and seem to completely forget Nash Keshwala, the third!!! IF history serves me well Nash is an experienced judge and referee originally Thailand IFMA trained!! did people forget this??? He scored the fight to Kieran to win by one round. He is schooled under the same system as Tony and as far as I am concerned knows the job very well. It really pisses me off when he gets left out like he doesnt matter. What a terrible thing to do. Tony has spoken, as well as Richard like he wasnt there!

In the event of Kierans fight being a draw simply because Craig and Tony saw it that way what about nashs opinion? does that count for nothing? Am I supposed to believe that all three judges should see all fights the same way? what a load of crap!!! History dicates that this isnt the case world wide and in the event of a draw on this world title and given that the Thai conceeded defeat the fact that one of the judges selected for this event; namely Nash Keshwala saw fit to give the fight to Kieran you would think that would have been the case. Afterall, stephan himself quoted

'So, looking at this, England should not have been disadvantaged. To be honest, in Thailand when fights are even, the result will go to the home crowd, the English boys and girls who have fought in Thailand are well aware of this. All the Thais who fought were top-class so for any English boy to go the distance and indeed make it a controversial decision is a great achievement. This is something all the gyms should be proud of '

I have a great deal of respect for Mr. Fox who has helped me on many occasions but but am very confused by this comment and very worried to the future of thai fighters coming here. In the event of the fight being close the local lad should get the fight? if this is the case then Kieran should have won surely? I cannot be happy to spend the time and money we have in training Kieran (in Thailand) and then have a bad descision even in our own country. Am I to tell all my fighters that unless they absolutely hammer there opponent or knock them out as Liam has suggested ( quite rightly) that we will not win? I feel like giving up to be honest with that fact! This brings into disrepute everything said about scoring by this statement. I am hearing the words that a local lad will win if close therefore we have to ko to win or have a lanslide.

If the scoring system works then there should never be the need for this 'awarding to the local lad' the amusing thing is that in this case the local lad was from 6000 miles away!. another point is that at world level as most of us know the fights are very close and so therefore we depend upon that precision judging to make the difference. IF a foreigner fights a good level Thai and it is close am I to believe the thai will win? if this is the case then we need to review the scoring system to be acceptable worldwide. What may work in Thailand doesnt work here as was obvious on saturday. The fact that Tim Isli, Bill Judd, Sean Toomey, Russ Connor and mnay other instructors saw it Kierans way tells you that. I also pose this question to Mr. Smith. if you had to chose a winner cos it wasnt a mad world title who would you have given it to? given the fact the thai conceeded defaet and one judge gave it to kieran? and remember he is the local lad (as suggested earlier).

Also R.double. You train with Liam Robinson dont you? therefore you wouldnt be able to see the error of his ways. He has openly slagged of Kieran and other emmbers of my gym with nasty comments. We havbe never done anything to him. He should confess who his so called mates are. he is right I do know the others!! one being from bad. co!!!! I wonder who that is? My rift with them is over now but that isnt the point really Liam as you are supposed to be a neutral ref arent you? you cannt think that what you have done is neutral at all. Just cowradly acts that I will discuss with you when I see you. I would just love to know why you did it and what we did to you. I m surprised you conjured the courage to get in the ring. Global was a dreadful thing to do and I have still not had an apology for it. I hope you get banned permanently for it. I hope your instructor sees fit to 'educate' you in the ways of muay thai you sack of shit!

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