Richard
Agreed but the Dutch, French etc are mainly scoring in a Western way - the one that we have been debating.
Thailand have 10,000 plus gates. Of course they do. It's part of their culture. We get that at some lower league football matches (like Leeds:) )

The Dutch are mixing the shows, which sort of supports what I am trying to say (I think).
Yes Money has been put into Super League and K1 to make them succesful. So why is that? Why were new forms created instead of bringing forward the already established form and ploughing money into that?

I agree that K1 has not really taken off in this country but throughout this debate my points have not referred to the domestic scene (generally), they have been directed at an overall picture taking in the western hemisphere which is the market place that Muay Thai still seeks acceptance from.

Like I said right at the beginning, I'm not here to fall on either side of the debate. I enjoy good MT, Thai based or European influenced.
I respect Tony Myers for his viewpoint and dedication. I agree that it is wrong to play with the rules and still call it Muay Thai.
At any given event, I still don't know how to send my fighters out because I don't know what the judging criteria will be at that event, but thats another issue.
I am fully aware of the success that Bad Co. etc have had in MT in recent years and aknowledge the likes of Liam etc fighting at a very high level on a regular basis. This didnt happen a few years ago and it is clear that some progress has been made

I'm just pointing out the glaring obviousness of every other major combat sport that is getting exposure, moving forward in a quicker fashion.
I 100% congratulate Dan Green on the event, it was a major step forward, but so was Picketts Lock at the time and MT has not capitalised on that in an effective enough way, although I agree that has moved forward at a snails pace (by comparison).