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brilliant point Smithy, Night of Combat for example, as much as i love it, it really yanks my chain sometimes, espeicially when i stay up till 1.30-2.30 in the bastard morning just to watch a bunch of lads who i and most people unless from there gyms will never heard of (not meant as any sort of insult to any of you out there who may have been on there in a 3 round scrap it is just the truth im afraid.) 9 times outta 10 the fights are shocking to watch and it just shows our sport in the completly wrong light, The problem is the cost of getting your show on tv, it ridicoulous, unless you have some shit hot sponsors, which is one of the hardesy things to do from what ive been told by Richard etc. We need shows like the likes of this one that was on last weekend, the muay thai superfights show from last year, and just the main vent 5x3 full thai rules fights from master skens shows to be show on tv, and not at such a stupid time, but i have doubts that that will ever happen. Also agree with what Bill says about the 3x2 fights just sealing the ring, that is exatcly what we teach our fighters who are coming through, there is only really Myself, Liam, Jordan and Cadden(with his ten minute long one.) who do Ram Muay's from our gym at the mo, until the other fighters progress a bit more that is. (oh and Lisa, better mantion her cause she will moan otherwise, also Sally Braddon does too) at last this thread now seems to be going somewhere and we are starting to agree on somethings, i like it,lol.