Right Tony you really have taken the whole thing too far now. First of all you are here saying "im just defending my mates" why?? Have myself, Liam or anyone else for that matter made any comments about your mates? (talking about the gangland side of things, jodie and callum dont count, they get shit fr4om every cunt in the papers everyday so why would they care what us2 say, and again are they ax readers?? im so excited, honest...) Not once a commenet was made about Carlton or any of his associates or enemy's. My whole problem is with the fact that in my eye's (dont give a fuck if anyone agree's with me or not) you gloryfying the the world of undergroung crime. guns/drugs etc,etc. That is my problem with it/you. There will be hundreds of kids out there who already have to compete with the fact that almost every single day there is some kid killed in a shooting or just a random act of violence in the uk everyday and i dont think that you promoting the film etc on this particular site is helping them in any way. Now please read this carefully and understand what i have put and the point im making without attemting to threaten me again, it pointless and i don't care. And also neither myself or liam where even training when you fought dave rilley, but i am friends with him, i attended his wedding reception etc, my girlfriend works with his wife, and showed her what you had put on here about her husband and well dave tells us youre basically talking bollocks?? And youve pissed off his instructor and ours id imagine when he does read all youre crap so nice work. And i would much rather believe Dave than you and thats that really, you have shown youre true colours and congrats for that. I had no problems with ypu personally other than thinking this whole thread and what it stands for is shite, but youre offer of coming to london for some violence on your behalf has made me change my mind. You are a true ambasador of martial arts, congratulations.

Thats all i have to say on it, its not worth it, that is until you decide to threaten me again for having a mind and oppions of my own again, when that happens i will be back.

Pingu, ypou have no idea what you are talking about, no way is this a bc thing, is davymc,vinny brian calder and the rest of the other guy's who went on the real hardmen thread and slagged Tony off from badco??? no there not.