Colin with regards to my previous post.. I never said the judges cheated in anyway or behaved in a wrong way.. That was a very hard fight to judge and must have been on of the closest fights... I believe that all judges should be independant for big titles and such big fights that's why the sport has this same issue coming up over and over again... I'm not questioning your integrity or anyone elses who were judging.. You seen what I would have scored so very tight and the judges score cards are very similar to mine and prob most people in there... My issue is I believe the ref made a couple of bad decisions... I am not saying he is a cheat in any way people make mistakes but when a few different English camps are also saying that the ref is getting it wrong and he has a reputation for doing it . It makes us stand and think... I am sure you can see where we are coming from... I have no disagreement with the outcome very tight to call... But at this level everything willbe scrutinised it's people careers and I'm sure qasims camp would feel the same if the boot was on the other foot... Also finally out of curiousity how many points was qasim deduction on kick count?? He threw nothing first round... I don't want to take anything away from qasim I though he was fantastic and tactics were spot on I just answering your questions because you have taken my post in the wrong way...