In hindsite of reading this thread, and the carry on with wakleing and levin i have to say that Mr smith made a fantastic point.

All pulling in different directions is gonna set us all back. UK muay thai is getting better and within a couple of years it will increase again prob 3 fold, however the UKMF is the only organisation that has managed to bring the community together, giving proper titles and only 1 at each weight, i know its not perfect but its the best we got at the moment and unless people try to push it forward in the right way then we are gonna be starting all over again. I know there are instances which make people angry or annoyed eg. the liam R shorts fiasco, the wakeling/levin saga and now your rankings obsession nathan. However to make any sport legitimate as far as the real world is concerned you need 1 maybe 2/3 controlling bodys.

Not everyone is gonna be happy about every decision try to take the good out of it, sometime looking at the bigger picture is the best for everyone. Steve wakeling fought a draw with artem levin for christ sake thats awesome!!

Yes nathan your obviously upset about the rankings but she is still no 2 in the country is that so different from no 1?? does it really matter that much and if it does then go through the correct channels rather than slaggin people off on this forum.

I honestly think this forum could ultimatley be detrimental to our sport rather than beneficial