I've lost 10 lbs. of water from one workout before. Any fighter that has to make weight does the same. (or more...Ivan Salaverry cuts to my weight and he looks at least 25-30 lbs. heavier when we're standing next to each other) Changes in diet have a way of making you lose weight quickly and gain it back quickly; it's water. I don't feel like typing up a manifesto explaining anything else so do a fucking google search :)

"Tell someone to nit pic-lol You are saying you go with a formula to figure it out by your body weight."

Figure your CALORIES out by weight. that's how much it takes to sustain your weight. If you're 200 lbs. and 8% body fat or 200 lbs. and 20% body fat you're going to need roughly the same amount of calories to SUSTAIN your weight. The 20% bf would guy would need to eat less, ie the 500-1000/day calorie restriction, to lose weight.

"I am saying people of the same body weight vary widely in lean body weight and fat. Someone with 40% fat doesn't need to eat the same as someone with 15% fat."

Nobody...was...arguing...that people...vary...in lean body...weight...

congrats though. Post your address and I'll send a cookie.

"No nit picking when you are thaught a formula. Might as well be taught one that makes sense in the first place.

If you use this formla to figure out how much protein then you'd be using it to figure out how many calories I would imagine and I think its a faulty formual."

You read it backwards. If you're going to get smarmy, at least read it right.

"For weight loss, somebody that trains 3-5 times a week would need 15x their body weight (in lbs), a fighter will probably need 18x or up to 20x in order to maintain their bodyweight. minus 5 from this to lose weight, so a fighter would want to eat 15xbodyweight to lose weight. For good weight loss, you want to cut out anywhere from 500 calories to 1000 calories a day for a while. Give yourself one cheat day too, and REALLY cheat. We're talking cheesecake here. that way you wont' crave it the next week."

That's my recommendation (and many, many, many others who've tested it in the field and know way more than you or I) for calories. .08-1 gram of protein per lb. of body weight, provided you're not a huge fat ass and that it won't put your over calories, will work great for weight loss or muscle gain.

You think 250 lbs. of protein is too much for Lloyd Van Dams? Cause he's a fat ass.

"Maybe you have a different one for figuring out calories? That would be two then. nope one decent one seems easier to me.

"By the way whole grain doesn't always equal low glycemic, though it should be better."

BTW, some people with bad makeup, large adam's apples, high heels, flashy evening gowns singing Karoake at drag queen bars might actually be women.

"Whats your sodium/potasium ratio in your grape nuts??"

Ahem, nick picking?

I take multivitamins and drink at least a gallon of water a day. There's a point to draw the line in analyzing what you're eating and I dare to say that "sodium potassium" ratio is just about there.

"Just a thought as most cerials are high. Well most anything from a box etc."

Grape nuts flakes are pretty low. Can't remember the exact number, but they are one of the lowest, which is why it's one of my favorite things to eat.

"The adverage American eats 20 times more salt than is good for health. Or do you believe lots of salt is good too?"

What does that have to do with anything? LOL. No Mark, I think eating 20 times more salt than needed is good for you.