It is that time again. Time for all us know-it-alls to determine who knows it all. I can't believe that this is the 5th time we've done this together. You guys are great. But I'M GREATER !!! LOL.

K-1 Grand Prix 2004 Line Up
Mo Siliga vs. Kaoklai Kaennorsing
Ray Sefo vs. Akio Mori [aka Musashi]
Peter Aerts vs. Francois Botha
Remy Bonjaski vs. Ernesto Hoost


Part A
Put them in order from 8 [highest] to 1 [no chance loser].
My Picks:
8-Bonjasky
7-Sefo
6-Aerts
5-Mo
4-Hoost
3-Mori
2-Kaennorsing
1-Botha

Part B
Answer these six questions. These are tie breakers for those who get the same score above.
a- How many KOs will there be in the whole tournament?
b- How many knock downs will there be in the whole tournament?
c- How many rounds will the champ fight?
d- What will be the longest fight? Name 2 fighters.
e- What will be the shortest fight? Name 2 fighters.


My picks:
a- 5
b- 7
c- 10
d- Bonjasky vs. Hoost
e- Mo Siliga vs. Kaoklai Kaennorsing

Part A
Put them in order from 8 [highest] to 1 [no chance loser].
My Picks:
8-Bonjasky
7-Sefo
6-Aerts
5-Mo
4-Hoost
3-Mori
2-Kaennorsing
1-Botha

Part B
a- 5
b- 7
c- 10
d- Bonjasky vs. Hoost
e- Mo Siliga vs. Kaoklai Kaennorsing

above is how the bets should look. just remember to give 8 points to you favorite and so on. those points will be multiplied by the number of wins. in the above case if remy wins, i will get 24 points for my clever selection.

Part A:

8) Hoost
7) Sefo
6) Aerts
5) Mo
4) Bojansky
3) Musashi
2) Kaoklai Kaennorsing
1) Botha


Part B:

A - 3
B - 6
C - 9
D - Bonjasky Vs. Hoost
E - Aerts Vs. Botha

Part A:

8) Hoost
7) Sefo
6) Aerts
5) Mo
4) Bojansky
3) Musashi
2) Kaoklai Kaennorsing
1) Botha


Part B:

A - 3
B - 6
C - 9
D - Bonjasky Vs. Hoost
E - Aerts Vs. Botha

Part A

8-Bonjaski
7-Sefo
6-Hoost
5-Musashi
4-Aerts
3-Mo
2-Kaennorsing
1-Botha

Part B
Answer these six questions. These are tie breakers for those who get the same score above.
a- 2
b- 5
c- 9
d- Bonjaski vs Hoost
e- Sefo vs Mo

A.

8. Hoost
7. Aerts
6. Sefo
5. Mo
4. Bonjasky
3. Musashi
2. Kaoklai
1. Botha

B.

a. 3
b. 5
c. 10
d. Hoost- Bonjasky
e. MO- Kaoklai

Part A
8. Hoost
7. Bonjasky
6. Sefo
5. Aerts
4. Mo
3. Musashi
2. Botha
1. Kaoklai

Part B
a- 3
b- 8
c- 10
d- Bonjasky vs. Hoost
e- Mo Siliga vs. Kaoklai Kaennorsing

Part A:

8) Bojansky
7) Kaoklai Kaennorsing
6) Sefo
5) Aerts
4) Mighty Mo
3) Musashi
2) Hoost
1) Botha


Part B:

A - 4
B - 6
C - 7
D - Bonjasky vs Hoost
E - Aerts vs

Part A:

8) Bojansky
7) Kaoklai Kaennorsing
6) Sefo
5) Aerts
4) Mighty Mo
3) Musashi
2) Hoost
1) Botha


Part B:

A - 4
B - 6
C - 7
D - Bonjasky vs Hoost
E - Aerts vs Botha

Part A

8. Sefo
7. Remy
6. Hoost
5. Mo
4. Aerts
3. Musashi
2. Kaoklai
1. Botha

Part B

A 4
B 7
C 8
D Hoost- Bonjansky
E Aerts- Botha

part a

8) hoost
7) sefo
3) mo
4) aerts
5) bonjasky
6) musashi
7) botha
8) kaoklai

part b

a) 3
b) 8
c) 9
d) hoost - bonjasky
e) mo - kaoklai

8. Sefo
7. Hoost
6. Bonjansky
5. musashi
4. Aerts
3. mo
2. Kaoklai
1. Botha

Part B

A 4
B 7
C 8
D Hoost- Bonjansky
E Sefo-Mo


Kick some Ass Sefo!!!!!!!!!

Kaoklai Kaennorsing

Mighty Mo

Ray Sefo

Musashi

Peter Aerts

Francois Botha

Remy Bojansky

Ernesto Hoost

i think there should be more dutch guys in the k-1. these three have already won the title. cough-cough. what am i saying?

4 days to go.

LOL

3 out of 8, and you want more:) I think that Botha will be talking Dutch after next weekend.

Bring it on.

i forgot that south africans speak dutch.

i can't wait till i visit holland. i will wear wooden shoes, smoke pot and not pay for my date's dinner. i may even get to see some kickboxing while i'm there.

Where have you been hole your life Felix, under a rock? I have been in Holland, and I didn’t see any wooden shoes or kickboxing, but the girls I dated on my holiday paid for my dinner and for my tobacco:)

As far I as know, they don’t speak Dutch in South Africa, but Afrikaans. Sound like Dutch, but it is a combination of Dutch, Flemish and English.

Botha will be speaking Afrikaans with a soft dialect of down town Amsterdam on Sunday, and it will sound like he got a wooden shoe up his nose, and like he is high on pot… LOL

Ok chaps, feel free to copy my predictions as I am the reigning champion :), which means I will no doubt come last this time!

8 Bonjaski
7 Musashi
6 Aerts
5 Mighty Mo
4 Sefo
3 Hoost
2 Botha
1 Kaoklai

a 3
b 7
c 9
d Bonjaski v Hoost
e Mo v Kaoklai

Good luck everyone!

Phil :

Do you have a list over the past champs here on Ax pool? If I not am mistaken; you, Felix, David Lucas and Dirk Stal are the best betters on this board.

Unfortunately not Oliver, I am still roasting in the glow of my greatest sporting achievement of the year in winning the pool last time!

At last count, I was in third I think behind Phil and someone else.

I forgot your name P.J.

Let’s see if Phil or you can take the gold once again? Good luck to both of you.

hey! good luck to myself and the rest of you guys... ;)

8-Bonjasky
7-Sefo
6-Aerts
5-Mo
4-Hoost
3-Kaennorsing
2-Mori
1-Botha


a- 3
b- 6
c- 9
d- Bonjasky vs. Hoost
e- Aerts vs. Botha

it seems to me that felix " mr statistics" published a running total of peoples
pool results a year back or so. i think there were only 4 people in the eliminations pool in sep..

Here's the link (I'm not sure if its up to date though):

http://message.axkickboxing.com/index.phtml?action=dispthread&topic=7386&junk=1049381491.67449

musashi looks like an old man in those pictures... Hoost is starting to look pretty old as well


Josh

Part A:
8) Aerts
7) Sefo
6) Hoost
5) Mo
4) Bonjasky
3) Musashi
2) Kaoklai Kaennorsing
1) Botha


Part B:
A - 4
B - 6
C - 8
D - Bonjasky versus Hoost
E - Aerts versus Botha

Good luck to my old friends Oliver and David,I hope that you are both here,at saturday.And Oliver,great to see you back on the axboard !!!

Interesting to see every single person has gone for Remy and Hoost to be the longest fight. If everyone is right then its a shame they were matched so early as it will take a lot out of Remy when he eventually wins the bout:)

Part A:
8) Aerts
7) Sefo
6) Bonjasky
5) Kaoklai Kaennorsing
4) Hoost
3) Musashi
2) Mo
1) Botha


Part B:
A - 3
B - 7
C - 8
D - Bonjasky vs Hoost
E - Sefo vs Musashi

Sorry made a mistake top my pick are

Part A:
8) Aerts
7) Sefo
6) Bonjasky
5) Kaoklai Kaennorsing
4) Hoost
3) Botha
2) Mo
1) Musashi


Part B:
A - 3
B - 7
C - 8
D - Bonjasky vs Hoost
E - Sefo vs Musashi

As I have been saying the last couple of years, I feel find ending up as number two in an Ax K-1 pool, just as long as I don’t loose to Felix, Dirk Stal or David Lucas.

I can’t help it friends, nothing personal.... And then again, it is personal :)

It's interesting that so many ppl have picked the Mo vs Koaklai fight to be the shortest,

The Thai is extremely experienced, possibly having fought more rounds that any other competitor.

Also, despite a huge weight disadvantage, he managed to win the K1 Asia.

While he may not win, I think his experience and skill should help him considerably against Mo, so he may well go the distance,

If you check back I don't think you'll find ppl picking him to win the Asia K1

Similarly, few picked Buakow to do well in the K1 Max,

no one picked him to win the k-1 asia because no one heard of him or the rest of the lineup.

I admit I had never heard of him before reading about him on here, plus he is on the small side, therefore he comes well down my list.

Although I can see your point Jones, he is now fighting people who are much heavier, powerful and highly skilled, which is a dangerous combination. Just because he has fought big lads before and won doesn't really prove anything, as I have a mate who is 6`4 and 17 stone but he is well crap at fighting.

Saying that, Musashi surprised us all last year didn't he, and in the world of K1 he is a midget.

Musashi surprised us all on the expense of a sick Ray Sefo and tree blind judges in his fight against Aerts. All my respect to Musashi and for what he accomplish last year at the 2003 Grand Prix, but lets wait and see if he can do again this year? I doubt!

The points decision may have been dogy against Aerts but he still went three rounds with him, and although he was outclassed by Remy in the final, he again proved his durabilty. This allied with his excellent technical skills makes for a good fighter who shouldnt be underestimated.

I don’t underestimate Musashi; he has indeed improved his skills. Still we are talking about how he surprised us all last year.

K-1 Grand Prix 2004 Line Up
Mo Siliga vs. Kaoklai Kaennorsing
Ray Sefo vs. Akio Mori [aka Musashi]
Peter Aerts vs. Francois Botha
Remy Bonjaski vs. Ernesto Hoost

Part A
Put them in order from 8 [highest] to 1 [no chance loser].
My Picks:
8- Sefo
7- Hoost
6- Bonjaski
5- Aerts
4- Kaoklai
3- Musashi
2- Mo
1- Botha

Part B
a- How many KOs will there be in the whole tournament?
b- How many knock downs will there be in the whole tournament?
c- How many rounds will the champ fight?
d- What will be the longest fight? Name 2 fighters.
e- What will be the shortest fight? Name 2 fighters.
My picks:
a- 3
b- 7
c- 7
d- Hoost V Bonjaski
e- Sefo V Kaoklai

Happy Xmas with the Lumberjack !!!

8-Sefo
7-Remy
6-Mo
5-Aerts
4-Hoost
3-Mori
2-Botha
1-Kaoklai

a- 5
b- 8
c- 8
d- Remy vs Aerts.
e- Sefo vs Mo.

d and e are kinda risky pix, but will be correct ;-)

Bring it on!

Part A
Put them in order from 8 [highest] to 1 [no chance loser].
My Picks:
8-Hoost
7-Aerts
6-Bonjasky
5-Musashi
4-Sefo
3-Mo
2-Kaennorsing
1-Botha

Part B
a- 3
b- 6
c- 10
d- Hoost-Bonjasky
e- Aerts-Botha

K-1 Grand Prix 2004 Line Up
Mo Siliga vs. Kaoklai Kaennorsing
Ray Sefo vs. Akio Mori [aka Musashi]
Peter Aerts vs. Francois Botha
Remy Bonjaski vs. Ernesto Hoost

Part A
Put them in order from 8 [highest] to 1 [no chance loser].
My Picks:
8 - bojanski
7 - sefo
6 -kaoklai
5- Aerts
4- Hoost
3- Musashi
2- Mo
1- Botha

Part B
a- How many KOs will there be in the whole tournament?
b- How many knock downs will there be in the whole tournament?
c- How many rounds will the champ fight?
d- What will be the longest fight? Name 2 fighters.
e- What will be the shortest fight? Name 2 fighters.
My picks:
a- 5
b- 9
c- 8
d- Hoost V Bonjaski
e- mo vs Kaoklao

Hi Felix,
Hope I am not to late.
Here is my pick

8.Hoost
7.Aerts
6.Sefo
5.Bonjaski
4.Musashi
3.Mo
2.Kaoklai
1.Botha


I have a soft spot for the original K1 fighters big Fan of Hoost while he is still in the K1 he has my support all the time...
Regards
Lucy Tui

Who won??

I looks like Dan G or Martin.

oliver im sure we're somewhere near the basement ;) all my first round picks lost! i think there will be a lot of ugly scores. only one knockout, only 3 k.d's
( must be a record low for a k-1 tourney)

Hope im not to late but here's what i recon will happen

Koaklai will beat Mighty Mo = ko
Musashi will beat Sefo = dec
Botha will beat Aerts = injuri
Bonjasky will beat Hoost = dec

Musashi will beat Koaklai = dec
Bonjasky will beat botha = dec

Bonjasky will beat Musashi = dec

Do i get the prize
lol

yep. you get the prize. i made it myself too. just go down the hall and take the door next to my room. it'll be floating in the white bowl.

sorry. just wanted to see how gross i could be without swearing. hehe.

first prize is a musashi t shirt
2nd prize is 2 musashi t shirts
3rd prize is 3...... etc

ROTFL @ David Lucas :o)

David Lucas :

We will do better next year my friend:) 2005 will be the year where we will leave the basement, and move to the penthouse a Trump Tower.

What a Grand Prix! Who would have thought that Sefo would loose to Musashi, and Aerts to Botha? At least my prediction about the shortest fight was right; Aerts lost on injury after only + 1 minute...LOL

Looks like those who backed Mo vs Kaoklai as the shortest fight, kind of ironic because I don't think result was expected.

Maybe time for a rethink?

Kaoklai/Sefo vs Tyson...

So who won?

Ok, nobody else does it, so I am going to sacrifice myself :


Danny Blake 45
Dan G 43
Phil 41

Zanzoken 39
Martin 35
traad, jon, Felix 33
josh harley, max power 31
oyo, pj reilly, shoshin 30
lucy tui 26
oliver sperling 23
dirk stal, david l, white sniper 21

Congrats to Danny Blake. He won because he was the only to believe in Kaoklai !

Congrats and respect Danny boy!

Thanks Martin & Oliver,
I love the under dog!
Kaoklai earnt my respect by beating
Alexi for a spot. He may not be exciting to
watch, but he scores and then gets the f***
out of harms way.I'm flying back to Japan today
so i'll be finally able to watch it.
Peace.
Danny

damn, I'm really on a losing streak lately. :)

thanks martin. my numbers don't quite match yours.part b is only for tie breaking. therefore Max beats PJ but PJ beats shoshin and boobs.

1--phil 41+1
2--Dan G 38+1
3--Danny Blake 38+0
4--zanzoken 37+0
5--Felix 33+1
6--martin 32+0
7--josh harley 31+0
7--Max Power 31+0
9--PJ Reilly 30+1
10-shoshin 30+0
10-(oYo) 30+0
12-Jon 29+0
13-Traad 28+0
14-Lucy Tui 26+0
15-white sniper 21+1
15-David Lucas 21+1
17-Oliver Sperling 21+0
17-dirk stal 21+0

Thanks Felix. You really love rankings don't you? :)

more than sex! LOL.

Next year, Musashi #1.

Even if they need to shoot his opponent.

Phil:

You did it again!! You should change your name too razor. Next year I will feel free to copy:) K-1 Grand Prix champion Phil.

musashi will probably face someone like abidi next year to enter the grand prix and get put on his ass.

He probably will Felix. And Remy will face Akabono’s big brother, Hoost will face Naksasko, Jerome will face Glaube and Sefo will stand face too face with Aziz.

Is the same old story year after year!

I...I...I am overwhelmed, what can I say. I`d like to thank my wife for being there for me when I was picking my fighters and letting me watch too much K1 on telly.

Danny Blake, you had victory given to you and cruelly snatched away, let me take this moment to say we are all winners here, anyone who steps into a forum ring will never be a loser.

I couldnt have done it without you guys, you`re the best!

Get down!

Belittling comments are only only allowed by those that entered the pool Mr Jackson, I will ignore all others. :)

You won the Ax pool Phil, not an Oscar:)

Great humor!

@ Felix : Shame on me...

Conclusion : Precision beats speed *g*

at least you noticed that white sniper was cheating. LOL.