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stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-05 16:36:55
Carlisle muay thai club are holding a night of thai boxing up here in Carlisle on the 9th of March. Top of the bill will be 2 UKMF British title fights the first being a re-match for Jackie Short against Hilary Mack from Guy Ramsey,s in Scotland and they will be fighting for the ladies 52kg belt. The 2nd title is set up for Adam Smith at 54kg but i am yet to confirm an opponent,both these fights will be under full thai rules. We will be having plenty of undercard bouts also so anyone that has fighters that they may wish to match please contact me.
welsh eagle
Posted: 2008-01-06 05:30:57

Will send my list this week mate.

Joey can make 54kg by the way, i spoke with him earlier and he says he can do it only if my Thai missus cooks for

He eats crap, his moms cooking is a basic working class cuisine, sausage, pie, chips etc etc etc so my mrs has said she gonna cook him some training food, so now not only do i have to see him at the gym, i got to eat with him at night too.
marc brown
Posted: 2008-01-06 07:09:03
good luck on the show stu, you should get joey in bcause hes a good lil fighter. all the best. marc.
welsh eagle
Posted: 2008-01-06 10:18:38
Marc, thanks for your kind words, it means a lot when a fighter of your calibre recognises someone elses ability,
Joey and Adam fought last summer on one of Steve Logans shows and it was a very good fight with Adam giving away weight - Joey won on pts.

Adam is very powerful and also has good techniques so if it happens at 54kg where Joey doesnt have the weight advantage then it may be a different fight and worthy of a title.

Posted: 2008-01-06 11:10:18
The best of luck with the show Stu.
dean jay
Posted: 2008-01-08 10:11:00
good luck with finding adam an opponent mate, think joey would be a good fight for him at 54kgs, joeys a monster, he is bigger than me lol. Both lads are really nice guys and think we will be seeing them shooting through the ranks very soon. Adams a very clever and dangerous puncher and has alot of power especially when you think he could probably make 52KGS, future opponent for da silva maybe....?

all the best with the show mate.
welsh eagle
Posted: 2008-01-08 11:03:38
Dean, thanks for the words mate, gonna get Joey some more experience this year as he hasnt any Amatuer record, just a couple of interclubs and then straight into the big shows, giving away weight mostly during 2007.

I am hoping to see big things from yourself this year mate, i was very impressed with your fight on the Wolves show.

Maybe can get a match up later in the year, Joeys off to Thailand in the summer for 2-3 months, training and fighting hopefully, went out last year after his fight with Adam, but was suffering from broken ribs (from Adams kicks !!)for at least 6 weeks out there so couldnt give it his all.

Spoken to Stu today re this fight............?????? :-)
dean jay
Posted: 2008-01-08 15:38:57
How luck is he, wish i could just up and leave for 2-3 months mate lol, where does he train in thailand?

joey is a good lad seen him fighting Marc Brown who is another top fella aswell. I know what you mean though mate there aint many people around in the uk at the weight but loads in thailand, so you will find plenty of action for him there as well as out side the ring lol.

yeah im sure we are gonna meet at some point mate. how many has he had now? he is doing really well from what i hear so well done, especially as you said with him giving away weight.

thanks for the kind word, thought my last one was a little scruffy but can't moan i guess mate. Just train and improve on the thing wasn't happy with.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-08 16:48:09
Cheers for the good words about Adam Dean and i,m sure your self and Adam will meet again someday. Me and Mike are having a big WMC show in October and we are bringing a team of thai,s over and 1 of them maybe Rungchi,good match for you i think but thats a long way of. On this show i want to try and put the best of british against some good thai,s and want all the fights to be of a high standard just to show people how big the sport is becoming. The first match that has sort of been arranged and is what i would call the best 2 fighters at this weight in this country is micheal dicks v,s keiren keddle but its early stages of sorting this out so anything could happen but i think this fight will probs be the fight of the year at their weight.
dean jay
Posted: 2008-01-08 17:38:00
If there is a fight goin mate would love to be involved against a thai, well if you do then maybe give tony an email. soundS great mate, dicks and keddle would be a fight i'd travel to see. Me and Adam will be sure to rematch in the future mate, good luck with the show coming up and the future one you are planning.

is the fight on between Joey and Adam then? i'm a little confused, don't take much lol.

what are both lads fight records now?

think it would be a good fight and both seem like two game lads who love to fight. all the best toboth of them.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-09 01:32:40
I would say we will have a fight for you mate going to start matching it all up after i get this one in march out of the way. For that WMC show i want to put fights on that people will travel to see so i want all of them to be the best fighters that we have in britain and with you saying that you would travel to see micheal against kieren only makes me try harder to get this fight on. As far as Adam and Joey,s records go they are both very similar,Adam having 9 fights and Joey having 10 so i think this is going to be a great fight for both of them.I,m sure Tony is coming up to ref this show,see if you can hitch a lift with him.
Posted: 2008-01-09 04:38:45
Dicks Keddle....woo hoo, I'll travel to Carlise to see that :)
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-09 04:43:22
I,m sure you wont be the only one zebedee.
Posted: 2008-01-09 05:44:32
Oh and Stu, Ive sent you mail :)
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-09 05:50:12
Cheers i got it i,ve sent you 1 back
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-10 03:30:51
Anyone that wishes to put fighters on can you please mail me your fighter details,weight experience ect.... Our show is on the 9th of march and the fight card is starting to fill up but i would like to try and get all the matches before the end of this month if possible. Both UKMF title fights have been agreed and are both going to be A class fights.
welsh eagle
Posted: 2008-01-10 16:41:00
Nice 1 Stu, really looking forward to it now.
Joey training hard, should be a cracker of a fight.

I still working on getting matches for my show which is the week after yours, Sat 15th March now due to Easter so really wont know who is or not available other than Joey until later this month, sorry mate.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-13 15:34:55
No worries Lee i think i should have no problems getting the rest of my fighters matched as i have had alot of interest from alot gyms.I would like to thank everyone who has put forward fighers as the show would not be possible without all your help. Will be contacting everyone next week just to confirm all the matches and to give you all directions and also to see if anyone will need tickets as they are selling very fast.
Liam R
Posted: 2008-01-14 05:31:33
working class cuisine lol i love it Lee nice 1! haha
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-16 06:49:55
Fighters i am still looking to match-13 year old Lauren Reay 1 fight 52-53kg
-Dan Hope 75-78 10 fights
-Wayne Fisher 10 fights 63kg
-Eddie fisher 2 fights 62kg
-Oliver ng 0 fights 70kg
-Ryan Dyson 1 fight 71-73kg
-Adam Little 1 fight 72kg
-Keith Stewart 5 fights 61kg

if anyone can match please get in touch.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-17 12:01:59

stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-20 17:20:01
Looking for a fighter for micheal dicks to fight on this show any takers in britain or abroad?
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-21 02:25:25
Any takers?
dean jay
Posted: 2008-01-21 06:49:33
james france would be a good match i think???!
Posted: 2008-01-21 07:01:23
ill second that dean!!!!!!!!!
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-23 03:34:03
Hi Dean i think that James France sits at about 71-73 so would probs not make the weight.
dean jay
Posted: 2008-01-23 09:48:41
he fights at 67kg mate, maybe ask smithy. it was only a suggestion really mate as dicksy is hard to match with anyone in the uk. Infact there's thrasher as well, maybe he would be interested?!
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-27 03:05:21
Cheers dean may be a option but i think anyone in this country will want silly money to fight Micheal which i think is a real same,so will probaly workm out cheaper to bring someone in for him.

Also still trying to match Dan Hope 77-78kg (10 fights),13 year old Lauren Reay(1 fight) 52-53kg,16 year Wayne Fisher 62-63(10 fights) and Eddie Fisher 61-62kg(2 fights)if anyone can match any of the above please email me.
marc brown
Posted: 2008-01-27 05:10:51
good luck on the show stu. you could prob get andri kotsur to fight dicks, that would be awsome,
liam badco
Posted: 2008-01-27 05:45:31
Badger was 66 for his last not surprised people want paying good money to fight dicks its not as if hes some chimpanzee, hes one of best boxers from uk....Kotsur Vs Dicks would be good but not sure many promoters wanna work with him in uk after his shenanigans with Master Skens show.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-27 06:10:00
Fair play to ask for decent money to fight him but everyone knows that there is,nt much money in the sport at present,but i,ve agreed a fight for Micheal on our show in October against Keddle and he has,ent asked for a penny as he knows he will be well looked after.Getting a few Thais over so may even be a fight for you Liam. Myself and Mike want to put the best of british against a team from thailand so hope to get a really good strong british team.
What happened at Skens show?
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-27 08:37:43
Liam do you think that you would be up for fighting a thai on our show in October?I know that you cant get matched with anyone from this country at the mo. I will get Mike to get in touch with mr smith and we,ll try and sort something out. I am going to start the match making next month for this show,i know that its a long way of but its going to be a biggie so will prob,s take all that time to sort it. Got alot of A class fighters interested so should be a good 1. Let me know what you think.
Dan G
Posted: 2008-01-27 10:29:41
Just to clarify Kieran Keddle is not as yet down to fight Michael Dicks on this show. No offer has as yet been received for him to fight Michael..
Posted: 2008-01-27 10:32:31
Are you Kierans manager now that he has left Alan?
welsh eagle
Posted: 2008-01-27 10:51:24
Stu please e mail me any spare matches you need i got a lot of left over fighters from my show, mostly novices though but 1 OR 2 with experience and B Class.

Joey is making the weight no problem, training hard and looking forward to the fight now mate!!!
Dan G
Posted: 2008-01-27 11:20:59
I've been Kieran's manager for a number of years.

I'm more than happy for him to fight on the show, if the timing and conditions are right, and wish Stu and Mike all the best with it.

However currently the bout is not confirmed and when Kieran mentioned the possibility of it to me he certainly wasn't under the impression he'd be fighting for free.
liam badco
Posted: 2008-01-27 12:17:31
wow not a penny....he must really want that fight!! fair play to him!

Yes stu as long as its cool with Mr Smith and he has no other plans for me sounds good....Whats the exact date?
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-28 05:19:50
Dan i never even spoke to kieran about the purse for the fight but i,ve known him for a number of years and he know,s that he will get looked after up here. Liam the date of the shoe is the 19th October.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-28 10:06:52
Dan if you can send me your e-mail address we can sort things out for this fight in October or if you have Mikes phone number just give him a ring. dont surpose you have any fighters for our show in march do you?strugling to match a couple of fighters let me know.
Steve Logan
Posted: 2008-01-28 16:52:06
Good luck with the show, Stu.
Have you had any luck matching up any of my fighters yet?
Alix James
Posted: 2008-01-28 17:08:52
Me and Marc Sargeant possibles...

Alix James 8W 10L 2D 62-64KG
Marc Sargeant 10W 1L 1D 72KG-74KG

From Studio2000 in Derby - let us know if you have anyone for us to fight. We're both fighting 16th but should be fine for 6th March or for the later show.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-29 03:55:19
steve you hav,ent sent my your fighters weights.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-29 07:57:22
alix how old are you got a lad to match that is 16 had 12 fights.
liam badco
Posted: 2008-01-29 08:06:47
alix is about 23 goin on 13
Alix James
Posted: 2008-01-29 10:15:37

stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-29 11:20:32
Mayb a little to old for my lad but will speak to him tonight
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-30 11:09:56
Still trying to match the above fighters in this link. Also got 1 more which i forgot to put down-Keith Stewart 61kg(5 fights)
Posted: 2008-01-30 18:45:11
Good to see Keith back fighting again. Lots of skill and really nice guy, hope he gets matched.
Keith Fireshin
Posted: 2008-01-31 02:19:06
Anyone from K-Star in the line-up yet?
stu holden
Posted: 2008-01-31 04:17:35
Steve Logan was having a bit trouble yesterday with his email but i now have a list of fighters of him and will do my best to match.
Gary O'Brien STBA
Posted: 2008-01-31 15:43:29
Hi Stu, sorry not replied to you yet, will speak to you at the weekend, hope its going well!
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-01 05:35:39
No worries gary is this regarding P.O.S 4?
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-06 01:47:47
Got a full line up now,sorry to those who gave me fighters that i could,nt match. Here is the line up

Lauren Reay (CARLISLE) vs name tb confirmed (Mark Barlow)54kg
Kevin Jameson (CARLISLE) vs ryon able or james shields (darlington)59kg
Mandy Forester (CARLISLE) vs Alison Lewis (ko gym)58kg
Jamie Clark (CARLISLE) vs Greg Waton (ko gym)64kg
Kristian(CARLISLE) vs anthony sheradon (paul bates) 95kg
Willie Demster(dumfries dragons) vs Stevie Meikle (guy ramsey) 67.5 FTR
Jackie Short (CARLISLE) vs Hilary Mack (guy ramsey) 52kg UKMF British title FTR
Ryan Dyson (Lee Chesters) vs Adam Little (dumfries dragons) 72kg
Richard (CARLISLE) vs leon (ko gym)78kg
Dan Hope (CARLISLE AND OCEAN GYM) vs Alan Sawyer (john jarvis) 77kg
Oliver NG (Lee Chesters) vs Joe (ko gym) 70kg
Wayne Fisher (CARLISLE vs TBC 64KG
Adam Smith (CARLISLE) vs Joey Brincat 54kg UKMF British title FTR

Still trying to match Keith Stewart 61kg any takers?
Posted: 2008-02-06 07:49:27
Good Luck Everyone!! Including Wayne and Adam!! And to you Stu!! Hope its a good night! :)
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-06 16:26:55
cheers sam.
Posted: 2008-02-06 17:06:17
Good luck Stu. Will be up to support the show anyway!
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-07 03:07:40
cheers tricia will see you next week,hope all is going well
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-19 14:56:54

Hilary Mack has had to pull out of her fight against Jackie Short. Guy Ramsey has been on the phone to me and explained why. It is not for me to explain the details as they are of a privare matter but i still hope to get this fight re-matched sometime this year.
So i need a new oppenent.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-19 15:04:53
The belts are finally here from thailand. Both belts are the same.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-19 15:06:50
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-19 15:09:51
having trouble up loading the picture of the belt. try try again
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-22 01:00:32
Still looking to match Keith Stewart 61-63kg he has had 5 fights but has ,ent fought for a couple of years.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-22 07:40:34
Master A has just Emailed me and confirmed that Michelle Grizle will now be fighting Jackie Short for the UKMF ladies british title. Thankyou for taking the fight at only 2 weeks notice.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-23 04:18:47
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-23 10:12:25
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-23 10:15:51
still trying to upload the picture of the belts!! i hate computers.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-02-29 11:10:07
Only a week on sunday till the show and its a sell out!happy days. Michelle Grizzle will now be fighting Jackie Short for the UKMF british belt under full thai rules. This should be a cracking fight with Jackie just winning the IKF intercontinental title a couple of weeks ago on the lady killers and Michelle will be out to get a win after being beaten on the lady killers show by ruth ashdown.
The other main event for the UKMF british 54kg title will be fought out between Adam Smith(Carlisle) and Joey Brincat(wales). These 2 fought last year with Joey taking the win on points and this re-match i think will be a excellent fight. Hope to see some of you axers there and i would like to thank everyone who has supported the show.
welsh eagle
Posted: 2008-03-08 02:35:51
Gonna leave at 12 for the mammoth 6 hour drive from Cardiff, really loking forward to it (the show not the drive)

Gotta be said that we are being looked after very well by Stu and his team for this show. Although Joey wont be able to eat tonight in the the Thai Restraunt as he gotta make weight.

Really looking forward to this one, had Joey training hard and sparring with Elbows for the last 8 weeks.

Also i been letting them all kick f**k into me when i got the red man suit(tm) on. Dont belive what it says on the tin , cos it still f***ing hurts.

See all those fighting on this show later, some i have met before, some new firends i hope.

Sawatdee Khrap
Gary O'Brien STBA
Posted: 2008-03-08 06:13:04
The postcode is CA1 2RW.
Posted: 2008-03-09 16:05:49
Posted: 2008-03-09 19:33:00
only know 2 results, alan sawyer beat dan hope on points and tom key drew!!

aint much help sorry
guy caledonian
Posted: 2008-03-10 04:46:37
stevie meikle beat wullie dempster, 5th round stoppage from spinning elbow, after strong performance. fair play to wullie, he was the first to congratulate stevie and buy him a pint! that's why i love this sport.

not sure other results apart from jackie v michelle, with jackie taking points decision after 100mph clash, was lookng after stevie so didn't see as much as i wanted to of this one.

thanks mike and stu for having us.
Posted: 2008-03-10 05:31:08
Great show well done to Stu and Mike.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-03-10 10:42:26
Hi everyone would like to thank everybody who was involved with the show and to thank all the people that done all the traveling from the other end of the country,hope you all had a good time and did,nt sing to many songs into the early hours(miss Ashdown!) Hope we can help you all out in the future with your events.
Hear are the results-

Kevin Jameson v,s James Sheilds-James win on points
Mandy Forrester v,s Claudia-Claudis win on points
Richard Sagar v,s Alex Costa-Alex win on points
Kristain v,s Anthony Sheradon-Anthony win TKO 1st round
Willie Dempster v,s Stevie Meikle-Stevie win stoppage 5th round
Jackie Short v,s Michelle Grizzle-Jackie win on points UKMF title fight
Ryan dyson v,s Adam Little-Adam win Ryan unable to continue 3rd round
Jamie Clark v,s Greg Waton-Greg win on points
Wayne Fisher v,s Tom Key-Draw
Oliver Ng v,s Joe Clements-Joe win on points
Dan Hope v,s Alan Sawyer-Alan win on points
Adam Smith v,s Joe Brincat-Adam win stoppage 4th round UKMF title fight
welsh eagle
Posted: 2008-03-10 11:05:39
got to say this was a very good show, some good fights and we were trreated very very well by Stu, Mike and their team.

If anyone gets a chance to go up there it is well worth it, not just for the way we were looked after but everyone friendly and helpful, no bulshit, no games everyone enjoyed themselces ... got to say a credit to the sport in the UK.

We got to meet some new firends, and i got to take my fiance' and Joey to Scotland for the 1st time in their lives too!!!
All in all a very nice weekend.

As for the fight between Adam and Joey, i had Joey ahead on points in all the rounds, i told him to make the 4th round decisive adn he just had a moment of lax concentration, and Stu, Mike and Adam had their own gameplan and stuck with it.... a massive right hand from Adam that would have KO'ed mike Tyson, saw Adam Crowned UKMF British Champion - well done young man you have a lot left to give this sport and will be be going far.

Looks like some new kids on the block in the 55kg division now guys..........
dean jay
Posted: 2008-03-10 14:29:32
Brill result for adam, well done mate. hope joey is ok, im sure he will bounce back from it. see you all soon guys.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-03-10 15:35:58
Thanks for the kind words Lee and i am glad that you enjoyed your stay. It was a good night and everything ran well apart from the little bit of fighting at the start of the show. Adam and Joey are both going to go far not only just for being good fighters but for being really nice guys.Back at the hotel they where chating and having a pint together and if you had,ent been at the fight you would,nt have even known that they had fought each other,top lads and i wish Joey all the best in his future fights.
Posted: 2008-03-10 16:57:50
Was good to meet joey and all the welsh boys for the first time, top guys!....sure joey will be back stronger, that punch would have taken anyone out to be fair!! Also good to see the crawley people again as well, both of their guys looked good fighters!
Gary O'Brien STBA
Posted: 2008-03-10 17:53:23
Well done on a good show guys, great to see everyone! The finish from Adam Smith was very heavy and like Davy said, I think it would have put most down, he was looking for it from the start of the round and everyone he through had potential KO power.
welsh eagle
Posted: 2008-03-11 07:47:59
Thanks to everyone, Joey is OK he will be fighting at 58 kg - 19th Next month v Steve Meleady on the Bridgestone Show in Dublin.
He will be back training in the gym on Thursday although he is swimming today, boxing tommmorow (he loves to keep training)

It was good to meet Gary and Davey from Scotland, Bill Judd and the KO team all very friendly, the Crawley boys again a very friendly bunch and Carlisle is a wicked place to go, got it all, Biker bars, the Road house and pubs open till the small hours.

We want to go again!!!!
stu holden
Posted: 2008-03-11 08:18:50
Starting to sort out for our WMC show in October now (no rest for me!!!) you are more than welcome to come back up for this one, its on October the 19th.
dan hope
Posted: 2008-03-11 09:50:19
Some great fights on the show. Congrats to adam and jackie on doing carlisle proud and winning the UKMF british titles. From what i heard adams knockout punch was a monster. He has one massive punch for someone who weighs less than 54kg. Congrats to all the other carlisle guys on competeing too, and stu and mike for the success of the show.

Also congrats to my opponent alan sawyer and lumpini crawley, alan had a plan and set to it very well. Good talking to alan in the bar after too, nice guy. Back to the drawing board and hard training for me but cant wait to get back in the ring again and get back on the winning road.

Special thanks to sean for travelling up that morning, i know you had a really busy weekend with tom being on cage rage till late the evening before etc. Its much appreciated.

Thanks to all those who supported me at the show, especially those who travelled some distance. Was good to see people who i hadnt seen for a while again.

Dan hope
stu holden
Posted: 2008-03-11 16:57:42
If anyone would like to see any photos the web site is
stu holden
Posted: 2008-03-12 11:39:31
Win by points Jackie Short.
stu holden
Posted: 2008-03-12 16:01:59
stu holden
Posted: 2008-03-12 16:05:21
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