cotto vs gomez,I know the standard of opponent wasnt great but gomez is much improved from the contender seriesYou have to say tho that was very impressive from cotto just as good as PBF against gatti.As for woods i think he had accepted before the fight with tarver this was his last payday.He knows with his talent he has probably overachieved so no surprises with the result and it was always going to be a snoozefest.

Mayweathers biggest threat easy Cotto x

Was it Cotto who stopped Zab Judah in the 11th round, hit him a few low blows in the first round when he was under pressure?
Didn't see the fight but read a report on it, sounded like Cotto didn't exactly play fair.
I think Zab Judah is one of the slickest, most exciting fighters to watch thats around at the moment, I'd like to see a rematch at some stage in the future.
If he used his gas more efficiently all the way through a fight, such as he did with Davis there recently I think he'd have the beating of Mayweather also, he can certainly match him in terms of speed, agility and sharpness, all the things which make Mayweather great?

Cotto gave a Judah a sustained beating throughout that fight mate, a rematch would be over even quicker cause Cotto is getting better every fight.

same thing for Mayweather, he whooped him when they fought and he'd do the same again.

Zab could be getting a pasting from Mosley next month anyway

Shane will retire him,Cotto is class him v Antonio Margarito has the makings of a classic,Mayweather needs to step to the plate as his legacy will be tarnished as the man who avoided Cotto x

judah is poor when put under prerssure!!! cotto would do him within 6 if they fought again! mayweather would still beat cotto i think, its hard to believe he has moved up 2 divisions cos he even looks huge for a welterweight!!!
did any one catch tarver humiliate clinton woods??? was a boring fight to be honest!

just read fat and balds comments properly sorry already been mentioned about woods and tarver!

As mentioned further up in the thread, Cotto schooled Gomez, it was a complete and utter mismatch. Can't really see why Gomez was in there. Surely beating Gatti, who was on his last legs anyway, wasn't justification enough. It was the fans that got that fight. I started to feel sorry for Gomez, he was getting licked everytime he attempted to work from the guard. Cotto has probably had harder sparring than that.

Defo lee,get Mayweather in there x

your right about the margarito fight vinny.Fighting margarito is like fighting the terminator he just doesnt go away altho i think cotto could be the 1st to stop him.Liam do you still think cottos style will be easy for PBF? I think he is a little faster and a little cuter than what he is given credit for altho i still would back PBF i think cotto is capable of making it his hardest night yet

i think mayweather is fearful of cotto! he was deadly the other nyt!i kno tht gomez wasnt upto much n cotto has had a couple of dodgy fights recently but imo he is the best about at the moment! would love to see him fight mayweather! was ricky hatton also not considerin fightin him? would b a tough tough fight 4 him!its crazy to think he fought at lightweight at 1 point lol

The jab of Cotto and fitness and tenacity of him,yes he is fast and cute(not like that lol) i believe he will give PBF his toughest test i think Margarito could beat him as he is granite and can bang remember Ricardo Torres,good division then again always has been x

your right about the jab vinny it was a heartbreaker

and a nose breaker....mayweather can do know wrong in my eyes i love him lol, not saying it wont be difficult but think he would win for sure!

Liam i agree mate but he HAS to fight Cotto,because the public will demand it Hatton who i love won,t beat him neither will De la hoya...but am sure he will have his hands full,but Mayweathers movement would have to be top notch and not stay still,but he is probably one of the top ten greats of all time x

its the only superfight left out there at the moment.Fighters are good bluffers and money makers at this level cotto is saying he will fight whoever but behind closed doors cotto might be avoiding him like the plague or the other way round it seems strange it hasnt happened yet or even looked like happening cos PBF is talking about hatton again

Haven`t seen it yet but the result was no surprise. Neither was the Woods result. In fact for such a one dimensional static boxer he did well to get a world title in the first place.

Next I`d like to see Hopkins beat Calzaghe but that may be asking too much.

Complete opposite for me Phil i want Calzaghe to smash Hopkins he is very boring and overated,around at a time when middlweights are not that great,Leonard,Hagler the likes would have done him, Roy jones made him look bad in their fight,racism is uncalled for and he did it because no one wants to watch him its not even pay per view in USA,Calzaghe to win landslide points x...ps i still love ya Phil x

calzaghe the best british boxer of all time for me but the only worry i have is that hopkins looks dtrong and comfotable at the higher weight and he is also a spoiler like robin reid who gave calzaghe problems

wouldnt say calzaghe is best british boxer to be honest hes never had any real defineing fights against top top fighters!!!! kessler was good but thats it just good!!! hes in a division with not many top fighters!!

i think he deserves to be called the best british fighter just because of the length of time he has held the title and he has beat the best the division has had over the 10 years.To be fair not many british champs seem to have the motivation to keep hold of the titles for any length of time.who would your pick be liam?

I think he has to be x

agree calzaghe best brit fighter ever! i hope he beats hopkins coz our uk fighters have had a bad run of late. david haye and joe are the only two top flight left. i think hattons through now to be fair i cant see him coming back after a pasting like that! its the sort of leathering that kills a career. hope he does though.

i dont normally class the welsh as being british but in joes case i will, the welsh are a rare bread of fuckin dudes arnt they!

Hatton will be back am sure just to twat Malignaggi being honest x

Only reason I want Hopkins is bcos I watched Inside Sport last night and there was a feature on him. Puts a huge amont back into his Philli community and is articulate and generally a pleasant chap. Don`t where that 'white boy' crap came from cos a lot of his nearest and dearest were white in this programme!

Plus I`ve never really liked Calzaghe anyway.

Love ya too Vinster, you walking boxing encyclopedia you!

in eubanks and bens days they were real tough fighters around calzaghe aint had any of those fights really, Kessler was his best win and eubank was finished when they fought!!!! everyone raved cos he beat Lacy i dont know why he is absolute garbage??? Agreed it is a great achievement to hold the title for so long but theres not many big names on his record!!! some good fighters yes, but no real names where you look and go wow, cant beleive he beat him!
i think this fight nagainst hopkins aint as big as folk make out the guys 43 and not as vinny already stated he aint magnificent, i just dont think theres many good fighters in this division!!! if he beats hopkins then Tarver or someone i will have no choice tho other to accept he is the best ever i wont be able to nitpick then!

I'm with Liam on this one. I don't and never have rated Calzaghe. I can't take away the fact that he is a cute boxer, in the sense that he can evade a punch and has good movement. That is where it stops for me though. You always read how he throws 1,000 punches a round, that's all they ever say about his punches though! Don't think he has fought many credible names. I don't think it is a fair argument to say his is the best British boxer ever just because he has held his belts for that long. Albeit he has held them for some time, but how active has he been in that time??? Look at Jonny Nelson, held his title for nearly 9 years, probably had about 5 fights in that time. That doesn't make him a great!!!!

Still think he slaps instead of punches whatever the experts say. Half man, half kangaroo.

Jeff lacy,Kessler,Reid,Woodhall,Weit(twice),Steven wilson,fought a cruiserweight Bobby joe Edwards,Eubank,Starie...all names yes he is not personality of the year but the defences say it really ok week division but in UK has to named the best ever or i would say Lennox...then someone will say Canadian but views are views x x

Jeff Lacy, and up and coming who was grossly over hyped! So I wouldn't give much credence to him or Reid for that matter. Out of all the names you have mentioned Vinny, in my humble opnion, Kessler is the only credible opponent. Eubank was done when he fought Calzaghe. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that in order to win, you have to get in there and do the business on whoever is in front of you. I just feel he has had a bit of a cake walk! And now he is fighting B hop who for me was a good fighter, yet can't help but feel he is over the hill!

I agree but who has done better mate records have to be padded out with journey men and over the hillers also,yes Lacy was,is over hyped yet Joe destroyed him,Reid yeah not the best but he was young also Hpokins needs a leathering anyway as he is a pain in the arse,records speak for themselves iys about who has do better,i think Lennox as he lost but beat the people he lost too imo thats all and Lee when you come see me i will Hypnotise you and you,ll agree lol x

fair points but as for quality of opponents i think there is a lack of talent in most of the boxing divisions maybe not the top few but a lack of depth.Leemac disgraceful making a comparision with jonny nelson at least calzaghe has fought the best opponents he possibly could.The benn and eubank times seemed magical because it was exciting but they both fought alot of plums.People go on about benn conquering the U.S but he fought de witt and barkley both shit.

true FnB they did fight a few knobs too.....jonny Nelson was awful to watch!!! britains most boring world champion ever!

If you actually managed to catch him on telly once every 2 years.

As regards Benn, Barkley wasn`t shit, was in one of the best fights ever with Duran.

De Witt was highly rated at the time and McClellan fight speaks for itself (remember he was widely regarded as best p4p at the time).

Lennox will never be English like Big Frank was English, he is an imposter to me.

jonny nelson must have been paying the judges too as iv seen him scrape through some terrible descisions

Barkley beat Tommy hearns TWICE and ko,ed Darren van horn who was highly rated plus De Witt was never stopped before Benn did him in 8,Nelson was in the worst fight ever v Carlos De leon...it was the worst but most Boring was Duke mcKenzie defo,Benn v Eubank was an era of decent fighters who would scrap like loons,Lennox was underated in my eyes,least Hamed brought disco to boxing x

barkley and dewitt were average .Barkley fought an ageing duran an hearns .I have said before benn had one great fight with maclellan.These were the days when itv had boxing and they marketed benn and eubank as if they were the best in the world when in fact they avoided the real champs like michael nunn and james toney like the plague.De witt fight record 36 wins 6 draws and 7 losses and iran barkley won 42 lost 12.The real fight for the real world titles were happening on american t.v. not on itv we got the second string yanks over.I will take back the shit comment on barkley he was a little bit better than thatI will also take back that with de witt he wasnt shit he was wank

The same Hearns that beat Virgil hill for his title was beat in 1st defence by Barkley..yes he wasn,t the best but he was tough,Benn was due to fight Nunn but he lost v Steve little (RIP) in routine defence,and Duran beat Barkley also Barkley got owed by James toney who was at the time awesome till Roy jones beat him easily like it goes mate its who is around at the time that make great fighters,great champions,Benn v Eubank one was a classic too x

Fatandbald you know ya boxing mate..love it x

so going back to one of the original questions does everyone think it will be a routine defence for calzaghe or will hopkins cause him some problems?

Its at lightheavy mate...Hopkins will butt him alot and spoil and try to spoil Calzaghe will beat him and think very very easily also,and i hope so too x

Vinny, no way mate. I really can't see Calzaghe beating him easily. I appreciate everyone has their for and against with any fighter, but come on, lets not take anything away from B hop, he is a classy operator. Jermain Taylor couldn't live with him, Winky Wright couldn't nor Tarver. Whether you like it or not, these boys are top operators. I just don't see him walking through him. If you're so confident, how about you put my first session for free on the line ;-) ha!

I`d go for Calzaghe points but hope he gets a beatdown in the process

I am almost certain it will go to points! Can't see the slapper knocking someone out who has a good chin!

not a hopkins fan eh vinny?Mind you if you are a fan of sweet pea hopkins style must make you cringe mate.Got to agree with leemac this time tho i think hopkins could cause one or two probs for joe.Not thru talent just the fact that he looks strong at light heavy and he is a dirty bastard and this is calzaghes first move to this weight.Hope i am wrong tho and joe twats him

"jeramine taylor couldnt live with him"??? Taylor beat him 2x!

joes a dirty fighter himself, the ref will be busy for sure!

i too am a whiticker fan! great movement check this for evasive

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_G5v_PNsl4Q

Ok Liam, I'll give you that. I'm talking about the last time they fought!! Just trying to emphasise the point that I don't think Calzaghe will walk it like people are implying. I guess we will find out soon enough!!

Taylor beat him easier second time he has trouble with faster fighters,Jones and Taylor,Winky was 3 divsision to high,middle,supermiddle,lightheavy???? he is very good but so was Bobby charlton but his day has gone too,Hopkins is a hall of famer no doubts,as for your free one you had that via Email lol x mate this is why i love boxing and sports its banter,Hopkins will look to counter and spoil,the ref may play a big part in this and also its Vegas,money talks like him or not Calzaghe is class as is Hopkins,the best man wins simple but Enzo,s Italian and has ginger hair whats that about??? x

Pernell was the best ever defensive,him and Mayweather was a battle for the purists x x

Pesotto the Juventus right back was also a ginner. Funnily enough he tried to top himself last year by jumping from the 2nd floor of a building. Must have found a mirror for the first time in his life.

If it does go to points do we think it could be a slightly US biased decision? Will we have some controversy?

Thats what the danger is x

Or it could be a draw!!!!

Yeah that too mate x

is this a golden boy/warren promotion?It could be the worse possible outcome but the draw is looking favourite.Whilst the sport is great the politics will always fuck us over

the only worry i have tho vinny is the size. JC never struggled to make super middle other wise he wouldnt of been able to throw a 1000 punches every fight.So by the time the fight comes along bhop will be nearer cruiserweight.The size and power of kessler visibly troubled calzaghe at times.This is the only banana skin i can see for calzaghe tho cos as u have pointed out the speed and the workrate of JC is far superior

hopkins jumped up 2 weights from middle and floored tarver so hes obviously a natural light heavy!! Kessler was fuckin massive!!! he had a back like a silverback gorilla

I don,t really know as Bhop was never as massive middleweight he never ventured into Supermiddle as the money was not great ok he floored Tarver but it was not a concussive shot,but Liams right he did put Tarver down,but Eric harding ko,ed him in their 1st fight i think?..speed kills everytime,Kessler is a killer and had a game plan as them uppercuts were lethal,movement Calzaghe shown in that was superb,Whens last time Bhop ko,ed anyone ??? was it De la hoya who was a blown up welterweight,i see it Calzaghe surviving a few scares,getting butted and maybe a snorefest alot of clinching and spoiling,joe has been down that round before,like Lee said we will see x

true..he carries the weight well tho and looks in good shape at that weight and not a fat twat!

Liam send us a kiss x

if calzaghe does struggle to match his strength he cant fight on the back foot he tried it for rnds 1 to 6 against kessler who as liam said was fookin massive and he looked like he was reaching and missing alot .fair play to his old man tho who told him to throw to the body and the body shot in rnd 7 i think changed the fight in his favour.I cant imagine freddy roach wont of noticed this and has a gameplan to suit Like you said vinny if calzaghe closes the distance bhop will tie him up then speed doesnt matter either way.Saying that calzaghe may be telling the truth and be very strong at this weight and if this is the case bhop will be in for a torrid night

Hopkins can,t fight at a pace look at the Taylor fight joes a million miles an hour,its the lateral movement of Calzaghe,lets also remember Winky ran him very close also and he was never a banger at lightmiddle,also in sparring Jeff Lacy handled winky as the reports said both are trained by Dan birmingham,De la hoya,s dumped Roache for Mayweather now?...not long now fellas xx

I`m getting it taped, no way I`m paying Setanta to watch it.

lol i know your right vinny but when its a fighter i like i always look at the worse case scenario then it will seem alot sweeter when calzaghe does him

x x those are for vinny

XX see ya saturday