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phil296em
Posted: 2008-08-15 06:51:03
Does anyone have any tried and tested methods for building up leg muscles without going to the gym for hours at a time? ,As i have other commitments outwith my Muay Thai ! I/E kids, wife, no other free time except maybe an hour or so a night ? Any tips would be appreciated.
Mark L.
Posted: 2008-08-16 08:17:28
Without going to the gym at all or just for hours at a time.

An hour max is good at the gym for most, even elite athletes.

Squats and lunges go a long way... and they, like most good exercises are training the legs to work with the body. Don't use smith machine etc, unless you don't want functional strength.

phil296em
Posted: 2008-08-16 09:30:14
I meant not going to the gym at all, i apologise for not being clear in my post
thanks for the advice Mark.
phil
Posted: 2008-08-16 13:48:51
Is that right Mark?

I always assumed people at a high level were in the gym for hours at a time, do even the best limit their time there? Is it all high intensity stuff they would do then?

Thats quite important info mentally as its easy to think just an hour wont do anything so there is no point, whereas if an hour is actually very worthwhile then it could make more people go.
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Mark L.
Posted: 2008-08-18 09:17:37
That is my opinion phil... There are also plenty of example of top athletes doing both.. The body can only handle so much stress... and the hormonal system only puts out for so long. Never mind you want energy to train for your sport which is the most important.

Strength is best supplemented at the gym I think... otherwise just training your sport and possibly some cross training.. There is a lot to be said for some body weight exercises at time... mostly for training movement patterns and range of motion..

Sport specific goes a long way but so does movement patterns.. twisting, pushing, pulling squat, lunge etc are all "primal movement patters" and used in all we do.

Example... throwing has a lunge, pulling over your head,, pushing and twisting...

Punching has twisting and pushing and lunge (though more so boxing style punching than MuayThai)...

One legged stuff too... obviously kicks and knees but even on punching (especially boxing style) the weight is most transfered to one leg..

If not going to the gym number one is probably training your sport... Do you want leg strength for your sport or for leg strength?

Curling a weight, especially on a machine does little for co-ordinating your body to move in any functional movement pattern... A strong muscle, taught to be strong on its own, doesn't know how to work with the rest of the body very well... (there can be a time and place to work a specific area as long as the program is designed to integrate it later...

If you don't want to go to the gym and do weights, some body weight movement patter exercises that you have trouble with due to ROM might be worth it... a little less focus on strength but will strengthen movement patterns and allow the body to function better...

The body, when moving intensely, always balances and protects self... you're only as strong as your weakest link... so when kicking dynamically (for example) the body FIRST protects weak areas and organizes what ever is out of balance BEFORE allowing the kick to happen AND limits the power to protect against injury (which we can teach it to move past which often leads to injury)

So that will increase strength and certainly functional strength, but is not specifically working on getting strong...

Don't know if that helps much and to suggest specifics really depends on your body and imbalances..
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