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Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2008-10-12 13:31:33
Your thoughts?


Mark L.
Posted: 2008-10-13 08:52:31
I don't know but my guess is no way...


He says all he wants to do is sleep after...

One thing I believe that if you do a good work out for you then the hormonal response puts you to a place where you are game for some sex (testosterone release) about 1-2 hours after training. Its a good sign of not over doing it and a sign your body is responding well. If memory serves one of the best times (in an ideal world) for training is 6 or 7-10... if you circadian rhythms are decent this is the time with highest testosterone and best bet for gains...

Its not what you can do its what you can recover from!!! Getting a little horny a bit after weights is telling you your body is responding well to the stimulus and has enough that you are not over doing it.

More is NOT better. Pushing hard has a time and place and some benefits. My opinion is most people over do it. Consider that you train your body by what you do. Ifyou train yourself to be tired you actually train yourself to be tired.

If you hook up a high level runner to a heart rate monitor line him up to run, say go, in two or three steps his heart rate is already way up there loike he is working very hard. This is because his body has been conditioned to work hard and knows what to do... work hard. Its good to be able to push and work hard but it is a HUGE waste of energy to teach the body to be stressed as soon as you start training in my opinion.

The body learns by doing... train tired and stressed, perform tired and stressed.

I think conditioning should not be done every training session.

Just like reading a paragraph where you recall best the first and last sentence the body recalls the first and last part of the round and like you recall best the first and last paragraph your body will remember the first and last round of training.

When pushing to the point of performance dropping, technique dropping, being tired and maybe frustrated (frustration usually a big signal of over training) then you teach your body to have that lower performance level, poor technique and to get frustrated.

Lets say you are going to do the Thai style of kicking the bag repeatedly atthe end of a round or doing sets atthe end of training. It is my opinion that this should be done only as long as speed, power and technique are still there. As soon as you slow down a hair, I believe stop. Have enough energy to recover and the next conditioning session you do it again. With enough recovery (you NEVER strengthen in training, only in recovery) over time you can do more and more before loosing speed and power.

Always finish strong.

I believe the same applies for weights etc

Daily conditioning makes no sense to me. Alternating days of conditioning and technique, skill etc etc

A lot of the older former fighters in Thailand always told me to work hard less and play more...

Watch the greats perform and they are not stressing most of the time... they are cruising in a zone.

Conditioning and pushing are important... daily and to the point of not recovering or feeling past it when finished training is a sign of too much...

Turtle or hare...

Little bit little bit and I believe you get further with conditioning... it also gives you way more time to work on actual skills and technique.

Hard hard hard and pushing fatigue takes the possibility of awareness of technique (awareness needed to make conscious effort to change = improve). The excess stress response all the time also is not a conducive learning field either.

Most western fighters I see look pretty much the same year after year... that suggests to me lack of growth.

Do the same thing get the same results.To expect a different result is a sign of insanity.

I don't know but something like this may have a place periodically. I use to do depth charges/lung busters... swimming lengths under water. IF it is done for sure it shouldn't be frequently or a base part of weekly training in my opinion.

Again the biggest thing is how does YOUR body respond? Are YOU over training?
If you are sacked out after weights and are not feeling like a little lovin' my bet is it is not worth the time and effort...

Sex drive should go up with training, not down!!!

Who would want to want sex less anyway? :)

Stress hormones have the highest priority in terms of using building blocks to make them. If sex drive is dropping it is saying there are not enough energy or building blocks to make them. That also means that you don't have the energy and building blocks to make rest and recovery hormones.

If you can do it AND recover AND do it again AND do it better AND you are feeling great and wanting some lovin' then you are probably on the right track.

If you can do it but thats it... your body is catabolic and eating its self up. Prepare for injury, health issues, fatigue, frustration and less sex.

In my opinion and experience.
Mark L.
Posted: 2008-10-13 08:53:09
thats 7-10am
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