Andy Hug Vs Labaner did they ever fight? if so who one and were was it (k-1? Muay Thai what ever)

Andy Hug has been fighting Jerome Le Banner in the K-1 back in 1995.

Andy Hug won on points.

Andy Hug Vs Jerome Le Banner

Andy Hug Vs Jerome Le Banner

does lebanner win the prize for most goofy hairstyles in k-1?

Great hair

goofy hairstyles?

at least he's stopped wearing the tennis racket on his head.

LOL!!

hee oliver,what do you think about these santa claus.

He he he Dirk, well..... I dont like santa.

Anyone remember the old K-1 when LeBanner barely wins on points to the little Thai guy? Who was that guy?. Same card Stan the Man kisses Patric Smiths wife after knocking him out. Even Kimo, the crazy NHB guy got beat up that night.

I remember the old K-1, that was the days when Andy was around Tacking Care of Business........

well i'll bring up a nother qwestion. but for fans of andy hug don't take it the worng way. it seams to me that andy was not as good as the k-1 made him to be. i mean he was a realy good fighter but i've heard things like "i don't pay attenton to the k-1 any more because since andy dide its bine no good" or "no one came close to andy" but if thats true how come he only won 1 k-1. i'm not trying to get any one angrey just trying to figure out why so many people like him in that way?

Why did Andy "only" win the one time? Who knows?

G: Please don’t remember that Andy also was in the Grand Prix final in 1997 & in 1998. Only two fighters in the K-1 have been in the Grand Prix final more than Andy Hug, and that is Ernesto Hoost & Peter Aerts.

Here are some of Andy Hug's titles, so tell me more than tree fighters in the game who came close to Andy, please!!!!!!!! Give me just one or two names, besides Hoost & Aerts, please.

Kyokushin European champion 1985 & 1989
Kyokushin 2nd at the 4rh World Open in 1987
Seido Karate World Cup Champion '92
Seido Karate World Cup Finalist '93
U.K.F. World Super Heavyweight Champion
W.M.T.C World Super Heavyweight Champion
W.K.A. World & European Muay Thai Super Heavyweight Champion
K-1 GP Champion '96
K-1 GP Finalist '97
K-1 GP Finalist '98

true but what about banardo (is that how you spell it?) and grecko. also what about the accusation that the k-1 took it easy on him give him fights he could win or thought he could win while the rest got the people = to them because andy did (or even though he traind in kyokushin, and muaythai) Seidokaikan (the owner of the k-1s style)?

Why did Andy "only" win the Grand Prix one time? Who knows?

G: Please don’t remember that Andy also was in the Grand Prix final in 1997 & in 1998. Only two fighters in the K-1 have been in the Grand Prix final more than Andy Hug, and that is Ernesto Hoost & Peter Aerts.

Here are some of Andy Hug's titles, so tell me more than tree fighters in the game who came close to Andy, please!!!! Give me just one or two names, besides Hoost & Aerts, please.

Andy was a champion, in Kyokushin, Seido and in the K-1. And most of all, he was the peoples choice!

Kyokushin European champion 1985 & 1989
Kyokushin 2nd at the 4rh World Open in 1987
Seido Karate World Cup Champion '92
Seido Karate World Cup Finalist '93
U.K.F. World Super Heavyweight Champion
W.M.T.C World Super Heavyweight Champion
W.K.A. World & European Muay Thai Super Heavyweight Champion
K-1 GP Champion '96
K-1 GP Finalist '97
K-1 GP Finalist '98

Easy fights?

What are you talking about? Andy has been fighting them all, also Sam Greco and Mike Bernado.

What is and easy fight in the K-1?

Look at Jerome Le Banner fights the last 18 month in the K-1, and look at Peter Aerts opponents the last two years, is that what you call easy fights to make the fans happy??

Andy Hug was fighting CroCop in Switzerland, and five days latter Nubo in Japan only a month before he died, call it easy - I call it a tuff schedule.

Andy has been fighting Hoost four times, Mike Bernado four times, Peter Aerts, Filho, Sam Greco, Jerome Le Banner, Musashi, Ray Sefo etc... That is not what I call easy fights!

I can understand if you say that the fight against Nakasako or Nubo was "easy" fights, but 2-5 fights out of almost 50 fights, is not what call to take it easy on him.

You ask why so many people & fans love Andy? Ask why all the fighters in the K-1 love Andy. He was a true friend and a wonderful human. Even though Andy became rich and famous, he remained modest, polite and truthful. Andy Hug always had time for his fans and he never refused an autograph request, which is why he was the people choice.

andy hug is the only fighter in k-1 that have fight with all the finalist over all the years: branko cikatic , ernesto hoost , peter aerts , masaaki satake ,
jerome le banner , mike bernardo , mirko crocop and ray sefo and he have beat
them all. that can no other fighter in the k-1 say !!!!!

andy was great. he was a david in a world of goliaths. he also started late and with a rocky start.

towards the end it did look like he was a little pampered. labree, amada, hayashi, etc. andy never appreciated this. he was a warrior and liked the big fights. compare his reaction knocking out amada to his other victories.

satake would get excited over that kind of win but satake is a worm.

it'll be interesting to see how well pettas follows in andy footsteps. he has a little earlier start but in a more competitive era.

K-1 World gp is where the Qwestianble fights are

what i ment is that too many people think of him as the one
not part of the big 3 and out of them 3 (hoost,arets,hug,) he was 3ed.
"a david in a world of goliaths"? thats some what true he was not as good as say arts and hoost but theres one big diffrence between David and Andy. David din't have the K-1 organziton to make shure he won. (ok i'm not a big fan of andy hug!lol). Hug was no under dog but he wasn't the king is all i have to say

a little off topic this qwestion is for Oliver Sperling since your in Kyokushin you may know. i figure that Kyokushin and Seidokaikan are vary simler (from what i've read and seen) but how differnt are they?

G:

Yes, Kyokushin and Seidokaikan are very similar. And the reason is simple, Kancho Ishii is a former Kyokushin student.

The biggest different is to be find the spirit and in the organization. Kyokushin has in my eyes much better fighters and a much stronger spirit. But... This is only my opinion.


P.S. How the (hell) can you say that Andy Hug only won because of help from K-1 organization??? Andy won all his fight by hard work, skills, spirit and an amazing technique. There are no other fighters in the K-1, who spent more hours in the gym/dojo than Andy Hug.

Andy Hug has been fighting knock down fights since he was only 15 years old, no other fighter in the history of Kyokushin, Seido or in the K-1 has been fighting more fights than Andy Hug, so do your homework before you write a message like the one you did above.

Felix:

I like your message.

Yes, Andy was great and he was a David in a world of Goliath’s. I also agree with you about the fights Andy had in the end of his career against Nakasako, Amada and Hayashi.

But then again, Andy has been fighting Peter Aerts 4 times, Hoost 4 times, Mike Bernado a handful of times, Sam Greco twice, Ray Sefo twice, Musashi twice.... I mean, sometimes you have to fight some different fighters.

It is also important to remember that the Japanese people and K-1 fans love Andy Hug, and that they love to see the samurai with blue eyes fight some of there own fighters. So it was as much a demand from the fans, as it was the wish of Andy.

As you say Felix, Andy never appreciated this. He was a warrior and liked the big fights.

Andy Hug 1964-2000
R.I.P.

Hello gentlemen,
I thought I would say hello and make a few comments.
Oliver,I agree with you my friend.But the fights with Mirko
and Nobu were a little more than 3 weeks apart.And regarding
Andy not appreciating the so called small fights I disagree.
He prepared for all his fights 100%,mentally and physically.
He always had pressure being a great fighter to win.And he set
a standard which was excellence.So he always had to perform.Everyone
wanted a opportunity to fight the biggest star,which Andy was.
The Japanese would have loved to beat Andy-but never did.
Also,nobody can always fight the tough fights and fight the best
everytime,or your career would be short.Everyone needs to be brought
along.Sometimes you fight wars and sometimes you fight some easier
ones.In K-1,you want a bit of a story line and some hype to make things
a little more interesting.Yes,the bigger fights would motivate anyone
that extra bit.But it still comes down to a fight-so they are all important.

G,you are young and a little inexperienced with life.You are just starting
your career in the fighting sports and over time you will appreciate
what it takes to be a good fighter or maybe one day a champion.Don't
take anything away from a great champion who still has a lot of fans.
Think about...and show some respect.

T-Hill:

First I would like to say that it was nice hearing from you again. I know that there was more than 4 days between Andy Hug's against CroCop and Nubo. I was to quick - I am sorry!

I agree with you T-Hill. Andy always prepared himself 100%, mentally and physically. As I was writing in message above, Andy won all his fight by hard work, skills, spirit and an amazing technique. I also agree with you about nobody can always fight tough fights and only fight the best of the best. It would not be healthy, your career will get shot and finally, how funny is it to Andy Hug Vs Ernesto Hoost 6 times a year?

No, the Japanese never got Andy in the K-1. It was only Satake who defeated Andy Hug in Seido karate, and that was back in 1993 at the Seido World Cup. It was a fight that Andy Hug controlled from start to finish, Andy even sent Satake down with an axe-kick. But Andy Hug lost the fight on braking boards/tameshiwari after four rounds of fighting. But Andy got his revenge at the K-1 Star Wars in 1996 and at the K-1 GP in 1997.

(Matsui also defeated Andy at the 4th World Open tournament in Kyokushin karate back in 1987, but this has nothing to do with the K-1)

T-Hill:

First I would like to say that it was nice hearing from you again. I know that there was more than 4 days between Andy Hug's fight against CroCop and Nubo. I was to quick - I am sorry!

I agree with you T-Hill. Andy always prepared himself 100%, mentally and physically. As I was writing in my message above, Andy won all his fight by hard work, skills, spirit and an amazing technique. I also agree with you about nobody can always fight tough fights and only fight the best of the best. It would not be healthy, your career will get short and finally, how funny is it to see Andy Hug Vs Ernesto Hoost 6 times a year?

No, the Japanese never got Andy in the K-1. It was only Satake who defeated Andy Hug in Seido karate, and that was back in 1993 at the Seido World Cup. It was a fight that Andy Hug controlled from start to finish, Andy even sent Satake down with an axe-kick. But Andy Hug lost the fight on braking boards/tameshiwari after four rounds of fighting. But Andy got his revenge at the K-1 Star Wars in 1996 and at the K-1 GP in 1997.

(Matsui also defeated Andy at the 4th World Open tournament in Kyokushin karate back in 1987, but this has nothing to do with the K-1)

I don't think anybody came close to Andy when it came to spirit, and the desire to win! From 1996 onwards he became a more complete fighter! His determination and HARD work paid off, thats for sure!

Mike:

Great message - respect!!

Dirk, T-Hill, Mike & Felix:

It is great to read the respect and credit you give Andy Hug, keep it on.

As T-hill says in his message above: "Don't take anything away from a great champion who still has a lot of fans. Think about...and show some respect".

Just curious Oliver , did Andy ever get Ko-ed?

Dynamo:

Yes, too many times if you ask me!!!

Peter Aerts KO Andy Hug two times, Mike Bernado has also KO Andy two times, Filho one time, Patrick Smith one time.

(Filho also KO Andy Hug in 5th Kyokushin karate World Open in 1991)

Did i forget one more KO defeat to Andy?

Andy has lost 9 fights in the K-1. (1 draw and 37 wins)

2 against Peter Aerts
2 against Mike Bernado
2 against Ernesto Hoost
1 against Patrick Smith
1 against Filho

= 8............ Who did I miss?

Still a good record.
Patrick Smith? What happened to this guy, last time I saw him was in UFC I think.

I dont know what Patrick Smith is doing today?

well,oliver it's you that make me such a big andyfan and for me is andy the greatest heavyweightkickboxer of alltimes,the fighter with the greatest fighting spirit,the fighter with the great techniques that i've ever seen and most of all he was a great human being. andy hug is an idol for me and i'm proud that i can say : i'm a andy hugfan !!!!!!
thank you,oliver !!!!! from the deepest of my heart !!!!

it's neat to look at the stats. hoost is the only one to win by decision. in otherwords, if you couldn't knock him out, he'd hit you in the head more times than you'd hit him.

i hope that they will remember him tomorrow !!!!!

Yes, Hoost has defeated Andy on decision, he did that twice.

I remember the fight between Andy Vs Hoost at the Grand Prix final in 1997, a fight that I personal think was very very even, and that Andy could/should have won as much as Hoost. But Hoost got the title, and like it or not, it was maybe ok? It was a great fight, one of the best GP finales in the history of the K-1. (I am not saying that because I am an Andy Hug fan, but simply based on facts.)

Dirk:

Maybe Peter Aerts will enter the ring in a Team Andy T-shirt again, just like he did last year?

Dirk:

Thanks for the kind words above! Please say hello to little Bryan & your wife from your friends in Copenhagen.

Have a nice Grand Prix tomorrow, and good luck with the Dutchmen!

ok now that we know how many times he lost to every one how many times did he win?

37 times

who in them 37 times
keep it to the guys he lost from

37 times

2 against Peter Aerts
2 against Mike Bernado
2 against Ernesto Hoost
2 against Musashi
2 against Ray Sefo
2 against Satake (K-1 Star Wars in 1996, one of Andy Hug's best fight)
1 against Nubo
1 against Jerome Le Banner
1 against Patrick Smith
1 against Ryuiji Murakami (First K-1 fight)
1 against Eric Albert
1 against Branco Cikatic (The best K-1 fight in Andy Hug's K-1 career)
1 against Jeff "Duke" Roufus
1 against Rob Van Esdonk (The biggest KO ever seen)
1 against Peter Kramer
1 against Danis Lane
1 against Bart Vale
1 against Duane Van Der Merwe
1 against Sadau Kiatsongrit
1 against Stan The Man Loginidis
1 against Mike Labree
1 agaisnt Nakasako
1 against Miyamoto
1 against Mark Russel
1 against Leko
1 against Amada
1 against Glaube Feitosa
1 against CroCop
1 against Sam Greco .............. and 1 draw

Need more information about Andy Hug's amazing career?

Andy Hug, then, now and 4 ever!!

man you and hug related or some thing there Oliver Sperling?lol

I was the one who teaches Andy Hug the Kakoto Otoshi/Axekick......LOL

No, I am not related with Andy Hug, but I have been a big fan of Andy since the 4th World Open Kyokushin Karate Tournament back in 1987. And Andy Hug has trained me in karate back in 1989, when he still was a member of the Kyokushin organization.

Andy was a big inspiration to me as karate-ka, when I was young Kyokushin student, which is why I respect him so much.

ya i can tell your like his bigest fan on here

G:

You said in one of your earlier messages, that the K-1 only gave Andy Hug easy fights. Look at the list above my friend, do you call the 37 wins for easy fights and easy opponents?

I am one of them. And I am proud to be it!!

i'm working on that i'll prove you wrong yet. but you may as well hellp me list the guys he beat during the 96 k-1 and the guys Arets got

Andy Hug 1996 K-1 Grand Prix:

Bart Vale (1 round ko)
Duane Van Der Merwe (1 round ko)
Hoost (desicion)
Mike Bernado(2 round ko)

I am shocked to read that Andy Hug was KO'd by Patrick Smith. I wouldnt put Smith in the same league as Andy. No disrespect intended, but when Stan the Man beat Smith by K.O. and then kissed his wife, Patrick looked horrible. Did he get lucky? Andy was a great champion and was my personal favorite in K-1, his death was unfortunate to say the least.

in my opinion, Smith's ko of Andy was almost a fluke (i say 'almost', cos at the end of the day i guess a KO is a KO and the most definite way to win)..but the pace Smith started off in looked like it was the first MT fight he'd ever had, and it showed when he ran out of gas against Aerts on that night....i say 'fluke' cos Andy's skill level was so much higher than Smith's..Smith, with his unco style, just happened to land a hard punch at the right time and Andy fell..happens to everyone...Andy is a champ cos he came back stronger after his losses and always remained a force in the k-1.

Hello Gentlemen,
Oliver,good work as always-but to my surprise not 100%
This bothers me as much as it bothers you.Hoost beat Andy
3 times to Andy's 1 victory.But I will say that in 99 GrandPrix
about 7 weeks before the tournament Andy tore his hamstrings
performing a axe-kick for Japanese t.v.I saw him a short while after
in the dojo and the back of his leg was purple.It was a terrible injury.
But the way Andy was-his mentality-He could not back down and pull
out.Anyone else would have except Andy.So,he fought with this injury
and it showed-but he would never-ever-give up.

Oliver.that fight you speak of in the 97 final was a great one.
The 1996 grand prix also was great.Andy had to make more rounds in 97
facing big Pete in the semi.Ernesto was more fresh and had a easier
ride to the final.Thats why he got lucky!

Also,don't forget that Andy beat Curtis Schuster who was a world
champion and a very good fighter.Also,another champion/legend in
Mo Smith-another victory for Andy.I trained with those guys awhile
back and they were really good!But it doesn't come close to what I
had with Team Andy!

oh ya he beat Bernado not arets for the 96 but it was Bernado vs Arets befor it right?

i think when pat smith beat andy it was quite early in andy's k-1 career.
he was just making the transition from karate to k-1 kickboxing,
and i think his boxing skills were not developed yet. one great thing about him
is that he obviously worked hard on this , and became quite a good puncher
to go with his great kicking skills.
this stands in contrast to guys like musahi or bernardo that are content
to rely on their strengths and not improve their weaknesses.

T-Hill.

Yes... is also bothers me when I am writing a message on this board, when there is mistake in it, and when it is not 100% right. I am sorry, but sometimes I am to quick and that is the reason for me wrong informations.

Davis Lucas:

When Andy was fighting Patrick Smith the first time in the K-1, Andy did NOT loose because it was early in his kickboxing career, or because his skills were not developed yet - not at all!!!!!!

If you have seen the fight, you will know that Andy lost because the judge was one big fool, and because Patrick hit Andy when he was about to stand up after a knock down. Patrick hit Andy with a clean straight powerful punch, great job by Patrick, but it was no big deal.

Andy went down for a split second, and was about to get up again less than 1 second after he went down. The judge started to count on Andy, as he should after the official rules. But when the judge start counting, Patrick hit Andy Hug again point blank right in the face, and Andy went down again, as any other fighter and human would have done.

Instead of getting disqualified, Patrick wins the fight, don’t ask me why or even worse.... How?? The judge stood in the middle, only half a meter from Andy & Pateick, but he stops the fight and gives the victory to Patrick. Andy and his corner was is in chock, they could not understand how Patrick could win the fight, when he hit Andy when the judge was about to count on him? The fans did also get really mad, buuhhiing at Patrick and at the judge. It was the biggest scandal ever in the K-1.

Davis Lucas:

Look at the picture, it says it all!! Andy is half way down and half way up, and you can see the judge in the back ground starting to count, and throwing his arms in the air to indicate, that Patrick has to stop and most go away from Andy.

But what happened, well.... Read my message above.

But... Andy got REVENGE against Patrick - big time!

This is how Andy won his 2nd fight against Patrick Smith, by a knee in the face.

Guys, I liked Andy as much as anyone, but he was beat fair and square as far as the K-1 rules go against Pat Smith. As soon as you go down twice in a round, you lose under K-1 rules. Andy was decked twice within the first 15 seconds and had lost. The ref was jumping in to call an official halt to the bout when Andy jumped up from the second knockdown and was decked for a third time immediately. In other words, the third knockdown and it's timing, is an absolute non-issue. Andy had already lost the fight. Apologies guys, but I've read slandrous comments towards great fighters countless times, yet every time it concerns Andy, there is a list of excuses which distort the truth. Andy was a great fighter, a convenient list of excuses for his losses is not a necessity at all.

i do think that pat smith was outpunching andy in their first bout.
and i have the tape. nickos im not sure if they had the two knockdown
rule at that point?. but andy did make the beginner's mistake ( a la zab
judah) of trying to get up too soon after being knocked down. he got up
and came at pat smith and was knocked down again.
but my point was that andy came back and got his revenge on smith.

Nickos:

Nice hearing your point of view!

Yes, Andy was decked, but there was no reason to hit him on his way up again. It reminds me a little like the fight between Pettas Vs Jerome Le Banner.

Pettas was also decked, and the fight was also over, but there was NO reason to hit him after the fight was over, it was way out of line. To me it is a scandale, no more no less!!!! Also if your name is Andy Hug.

the la banner pettas fight is my faverot KO lol that pettas guy should have not gotten up and moved at Jerome like that Jerome had all the right to punch himm for that little fake hook after the fight!

Oliver, if you've been in the ring Im sure you'll understand what it's like when your nerves are buzzing in a big fight...yes he smashed Andy a third time, but it was a gut reaction because Andy bounced up so quick...no serious harmful intent...regardless, Andy had already lost.


David, I'm sure the 2 knockdown rule was a part of the rules at that stage. Even if it wasn't, that second knockdown had convinced the ref to stop it. Watch it ad you'll see him leaping in to wave it off after the second knockdown. Good point, it was almost like Zab Judah against Kostya Tszyu.

G:

You can NOT be serious - I sure hope not!!

serious thats my favorite KO !
he should not have moved towordes labander that way it looks like he was going to hit labaner after the fight was over and labaner fed him a cross! that was awsome!

G:

Well, it surprised me a lot that you are serious. To be real honest, I personal think that is sad to hear that, but I guess that the different between you and me.

Pettas did mowed forward Jerome, and was making an attitude wit his face, but his arms were down at all time, down by his side/shorts! Pettas was no thread to Jerome - not at all, and the fight was over! And for the second, Jerome is a professional fighter, he should behave like one, and not like a street fighter. This is the K-1 and not UFC or Pride. What would be next??

I agree that Pettas should not have screamed Jerome in the face, but there is one hell of deferent between screaming some words in the face, and then taking to the level, where you hit one with all your power and strength right in the face point blank.

To me it tells more about Jerome than it do about Pettas. And as I see it, Jerome Le Banner is the only fighter in the interior K-1 who could do what he did. No other fighters in the game, would ever think of doing what Jerome did, he is one of a kind, if you get my point…?




Am I the only one on the Axe who think that Jerome was way out of line??? Please confirm.

roid rage. typical anus.

Felix:

??????

we talking about the same Labaner vs Pettra fight?
pettras hand were not all the way up but it was almost like a fake hay maker.
inless its a totaly differnt fight

if someone on steroids loses his temper, it is called roid rage.

on another thread, someone thaought roids were hemaroids.

lebanner is an asshole.

anus means asshole

roid rage....anus.

get it?

Felix:

Now I get it!

I am a little slow sometimes, I am sorry. It is my English, but when you confirm it like you did in your message above, I understand very well... LOL
!

I did not know that you do not like Jerome, I thought I was the only one?

G:

We are talking about the same fight, because it is the only fight Pettas has had against Jerome. I am sad to hear that you like when fighters hit each other after the bell, I simply dont understand you?

I guess you then also like the fight between Mike Bernado Vs Jerome Le Banner, where Mike KO Jerome after the bell?

actually i like jerome.

he fights well. and makes things entertaining.

i just don't condone some of his behavior.

Felix:

I agree, Jerome do fight very well, and he sure make things "entertaining".

But to me Jerome is not a tournament fighter! I also think that Jerome is good, I will say one of the best in the K-1. Jerome is also very good to prepare himself to one single fight - against one opponent. But when it comes to fight tree different fighters on one single night, he seems to have a problem to stay in focus, and most of all, to be the favorite. The Grand Prix 2001 is a good example.

Lets not talk about his behavior! I will get very unpopular if I told you what I personal think about Jerome's behavior.

eh i don't like people hiting after the bell i just hate people acting like a ass after the fight and even worce after they lose so in this case pettras had it comeing.

i actually blame that incident on the referee. he waved the fight off behind pettas' back.

pettas didn't learn the fight was over until after he woke up.