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Rich Ward
Posted: 2014-09-26 13:59:50
Show Prices - There is a massive divide between show quality recently but the ticket prices are much the same.

Some huge cards have the same ticket price as new talent cards. I would love Thai shows to choose quality over quantity however many local shows semm to throw as many fights on as possible, why? Surely c & n class shows whould be less than mainly a class shows.
Marko
Posted: 2014-09-26 18:26:33
Small shows wouldn't be worth putting on after venue hire, purses , medics, officials, ring hire, ticket commission, sanctioning , insurance etc , if you get 250 people to a small show @£30 it's only £7500 before any costs or commission , purses etc

Big shows charge the same but get more people in, but then the costs are way bigger ,
kevin dorman
Posted: 2014-09-27 15:48:41
I run one novice/c class show a year. 14 fights max. Look for good quality novice and c class fighters, my venue only holds £250 people. I only charge £20 per ticket. I give £5 commission. Happy to break even on costs. Would rather promote the sport in my local area and attract a few new people to the sport. My show has worked well with favourable feedback from coaches/gyms/fighters and spectators so far.
HAWKMAN
Posted: 2014-09-28 00:47:54
fighters make shows and ii think fighters are woefully underpaid. venues make shows as well, and the venues take too much.

bastards.
paulinthailand
Posted: 2014-09-28 07:06:34
its all about ticket sellers, there is a local show to me crap fights not one known fighter but all popular lads great atmosphere and they pack it out with 1000+ people every time paying £30 not one b class fight.
weazeldeazel
Posted: 2014-09-29 07:38:22
I'd say a C & N class show, £20, A & B Class £30, anything in the middle tends to be £25-28, I think that's quite reasonable to be honest.

What I find interesting though is the difference in commission paid to fighters, the "small" and "medium" shows paying £5-£10 and even £15 in some cases, where as the massive shows £3 ish, It's not like the purses on the bigger shows compensate either with many demanding a certain amount of tickets to even get on the card. The sad truth is Muay Thai in the UK is a hobby sport, 99% of "fans" are there to support their mate so value for money rarely comes into it.
Gary Snell
Posted: 2014-09-30 06:03:01
it is about value for money £30 for a c class show is just wrong. If the price was cheaper they would be people at the events.

The people making the money from the sport are only the ring people, sanctioning body or ogranisation

£15 is a good price to pay for a c class show
weazeldeazel
Posted: 2014-09-30 06:27:46
@Gary, my point was to my mate who wants to watch me fight the price is not relevant, as he is not a fan of the sport and would not go to a super show he would have nothing to compare the price to, the price is not the USP it's the fact it's me on the card.

But as someone who is informed I would whole heartedly agree, £30 to watch a C Class show is day light robbery!
Lorne Bournemouth
Posted: 2014-09-30 07:43:04
"The sad truth is Muay Thai in the UK is a hobby sport, 99% of "fans" are there to support their mate so value for money rarely comes into it."

Hit the nail on the head - that is the MOST accurate quote I have ever heard in relation to Muaythai shows in the UK.
Gary Snell
Posted: 2014-09-30 08:31:03
Do you think if you sold 100 tickets for your fight and then lost you would get the same support next time

Promoters are being lazy, you have Main event fight which the PUBLIC have come to see and these are not fighters friends it me and you and everybody in Thaiboxing who wants to see a good fight

The undercard is made up of ticket sellers which are their friends and family. Lets say you are an active fighter every month do you think you mates are going to come to every one of your fights and they have other friends who fight

you would end up spending all your money going to show unless you are very rich.

If you are go and purchase ringside seats
weazeldeazel
Posted: 2014-09-30 09:42:44
I disagree mate, it's not the "public" that attend shows like Main Event, it's people connected to the fighters AND the UK Muay Thai community, Take the old MSA shows, great line-ups, good advertising ect but half empty arena's maxed out attendancese at 3k. That product, call it Main Event, Smash or Yokkao is not sustainable in great quantity, that's why these "super shows" only happen once or twice a year.

As for mates supporting when you lose, the price has no bearing, the fact you keep losing is ;)
Rich Ward
Posted: 2014-10-01 16:04:18
£20 for a novice and c class show sounds about right to me. I see c class shows charging £30 that screams rip of when a class shows are the same price.

If you are putting on a novice, c class show surely you should book a cheaper venue.

Some c class fights I have watched are more exciting than some a class fights but surely charging the same price is wrong, c class fighters don't even get a purse.
ron simpson
Posted: 2014-10-10 17:22:01
As someone who knows nothing about the economics of promoting, I've always been surprised how many differing levels of show charge about the same price - £25-ish. To me, with my limited attention span, the biggest problem is promoters who want to cram in as many fights as possible - if I go to a venue at 3.00, I don't want to be there at 10.30. (I'm not thinking of all-day events, especially for kids, where there's a great deal of come-and-go)
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Travs
Posted: 2014-10-11 11:51:41
I would argue that even an event like Yokkao today, approx. 90%of the people attending are already part of the muay thai 'community' in the UK.... whether directly supporting someone on the lineup, or at least training regularly...

the only thing that will change this is regular tv coverage on a Sky Sports or BT Sport...

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