Of course I wasn't talking about the IKF or the USKBA, I work with both, I will say without reservation both are top organizations run by professionals. Both have real sets of rules for FC, MT, LK and SS... Both have worked with the existing gyms and promoters and fighters

As I said the rules were ridiculous. The first event they had no rules meeting then tried to DQ a fighter for using a spin back fist in the ring with no explanation. If you sign up for a Muay Thai rules fight, and aren't told otherwise, you do spin back fists and don't think they are an issue. We also found out IN THE RING, DURING A FIGHT that you can't catch a kick. This is in a Thai match!

Their explanation of why they use their rules was non-existant or frankly stupid (a spin back fist can ko guys, DUH, so let's not do any kind of kickboxng then, ok? we will just do point sparring).

I saw 10-10 rounds on every fight, one judge seemed to use them every fight.

I watched a fighter get destroyed, floored with a cross and not back on the feet until 8, only to win the round? WTF? The explanation, she used some knees and in wka, if you throw a knee you win the round??

Yousef taghizadeh got hit with a solid hook, no question, but kept fighting and wasn't woppled or showed effect, he was given a standing 8 count. OK, whatever, but when he proceeded to put the other guy in the corner and punch, kick and knee him most of the round with no response, the other guy didn't get a count, and on 2 of the three judges' cards he won the rounds.

Like I said, Extreme Lacosta, Phil Nurse, Aziz, Borodin and pretty much everyone there swore they would never do a WKA event again