Problem is it takes time and energy and persuasion enough to get people to set aside their agendas. And eveybody has them people struggle set aside short term gain for long term progress - having said that, Lollo is a good example of a trainer who supports other gyms - has does take his boys around the country which is a start.

But in some respect we still need an Auckland Rep getting some action up here in terms of supporting the Nationals - we need a cohesive sanctioning body that actually works together unfortunately many have treid and now lack the energy to keep banging away at a brick wall.

What we need is someone perpared to martyr themselves for the cause - another question is whould NZ club be prepared to pay someone to take on that role and advance their cause ???