A few losses on your record in Muay Thai doent matter. In our game its more honest than boxing. The best fight the best. In boxing they avoid one another and pad out their records with easy opponents.

It doesnt depend how often you fight or how often you win - it depends who you fight and how you compare to them. Kieren is still learning and is up and coming too. He regularly tests himself against the best and even if he loses he always gives a good fight and its close, so in my book that makes him a good fighter.

Liam is a young guy who has just started climbing up the ladder. He had 4 fights last year, 4 wins, 3 KOs and has already had 2 this year (both wins)with 3 more already in the pipeline - June 6, August 26 and October 10, so you cant say he doesnt fight very often.

I would say that a good fighter should be judged on consistency and on who he/she fights and how he/she measures up to the calibre of opponent, not on titles or even wins. There are too many variables in this game to win every fight. Look at K-1 where the best fight the best and there will be a different result each time the same fighters meet.