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Brian Ritchie
Posted: 2004-07-13 00:05:39
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"Reason #1 why chicks shouldnt be encouraged to fight
The Boyz do it better! thats why As a spectator you'll get more bang for your buck from watching the fellas go round."



"the gist of reason #1 seems lost on you, so look at it like this, of the TWO SEXES, the MALE is better suited to COMBAT."

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No...I got it. I understood what you said. Not only that, I also responded to it. NAY...I even APPLIED your same logic to a different scenario! (I 1-upped you!). Heavyweight fighters are more suited to COMBAT than lightweight fighters (men). So there is really no reason for light weight (male) fighters to compete.

Take a second and respond to that one as opposed to passing it by. You don't seem to be applying your theory across the board on both genders. It seems to only apply toward female fighters. I wonder why the bias. Why is such a double standard used in your example? Why aren't you suggesting that lighter weight male fighters should not compete? The heavyweights would SMOKE em! More bang for the buck, right? Your story does not add up, Rudy.

Or maybe...just maybe...fighters compete against people in their own gender, their own weight, AND their own experience level and so it doesn't matter that a heavyweight male fighter could kick the shit out of everybody in the ring. They all still deserve to be there competing and demonstrating their skill.

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Perhaps it would've been wiser to use the word 'female' ( I dunno! what is the politically correct term? ) instead of 'chicks',
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Well, you certainly spent a lot of time responding to that one point when it wasn't even the meat of my argument.
But I'll explain it to you anyway...get out your #2 pencil.

"Chicks" has more of a negative connotation than bloke, boyz, chaps, fellas. It is fitting that you use that term multiple times when referring to women becuase you obviously don't have much respect for them. (Chivalry? my ass!). Many women become offended at the use of that word. Sometimes it is used in a humorous or lighthearted way and then it becomes acceptable, depending upon the woman you are talking to/about. But the context of your speech denotes a more serious tone. You weren't being humorous, nor lighthearted.

Political Correctness? I am not politically correct. Political correctness has to do with saying things in a way not to offend anybody, even if you don't respect them anyway. It's political...it's fake. It is used to avoid confrontation. That is not what I am suggesting. I am actually suggesting that you practice real, honest consideration when using your words. The word is R E S P E C T. (I spelled it out in big letters just for you, Rudy. You're welcome.)

I noticed that you like to throw around the term "Political correctness" a lot. That seems to hit a nerve with you. Don't get confused about it. I'm not talking about political correctness.

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consider this scenario-
a man and a woman, same age, same height, weight and fight experience.

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Why the same weight? And why the same age? Why not just young, heavyweight fighters. HUGE guys...260 lbs and up. The lightweight fighters are not genetically gifted enough to deserve to compete. The older guys are too old! It's all about genetics and youth! Aggression! Strength!

The point I was making above is that the gene pool varies among men and women. In fact, it overlaps. Here is the truth, Rudy. I want you to take a deep breathe before swallowing this bit of truth, because I know it's gonna hurt your male pride.

There are SOME women who can slaughter men in the ring at the same age, height, weight.

Rudy, are you okay? You didn't choke on that fact, did you? Just breath man...breath. The pain will pass! Drink some water.
Is your male ego ok? QUICK SOMEBODY GET THIS MAN SOME TESTOSTERONE!!! He's losing his masculinity as we speak! Hurry!!!

* chuckle *

(Rudy's crackling voice can be heard through the background noise...)
"N Nn..No! Women are w.w...w..weaker! They are weaker! It can't be tr..true! All women are ...w...weak!"

You continuously make comparisons of men fighting women and THAT is the bulk of your argument.
It does not add up, Rudy. We're not talking about men fighting women. Only YOU and Porsche911 are talking about men fighting women.
I think that tells a lot.

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"the male of our species that is better equipped to express the fighting arts to its fullest potential"
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Ok, More truth coming Rudy....open wide!

It has been uttered many times on this thread. Many believe that women demonstrate really good technique in the ring, sometimes better than the men. As you pointed out, women on the average are less muscularly strong than men on the average, though the disparity is not as great as you make it out to be. Therefore, it would seem that THEY have the opportunity to demonstrate the effectiveness of good technique in the ring...since THEY are less likely to rely upon strength to perform their moves. Just like those 119 lbs Thais have better technique than the heavyweights. The 119lbs Thai offers a better representation of the art. Most people would agree with that.

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Definition of WAR a. An active and open struggle between competing entities.
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Rudy...
that is a convenient definition of War.

I'll state a more popular one...AND I'll give a reference to where I got it from.

"War - A state of open, armed, often prolonged conflict carried on between nations, states, or parties."

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=war

Like many English words, there are different ways to apply a word. Those definitions come from the use of metaphors. Those metaphors transitioned into new definitions tacked onto the word. BUT the most common definition by FAR for the word "WAR" is the one talking about battles, as in World War, French Indian War, Civil War, etc...with weapons. In fact, I think that is the definition that you are using in your posts. You are comparing ringsports to battles on a battlefield...wars between countries...where people die and cities collapse. Ring fighting is nothing like this.

If it were, then that same theory would hold true that I mentioned above. Only the heavyweight men would be suited for war and so they would fight and the rest of the men would sit at home and bake them cookies, I suppose.

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Vince Lombardi: '...man's finest hour, his greatest fulfillment of all he holds dear, is the moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious.'
Vince Lombardi is talking about a FOOTBALL game! His methods and strategies are studied by coaches and trainers from all sorts of diciplines to this day.

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He is using war as a metaphor. He makes three comparisons between War and Football. 1) Great achievement 2)hard work, and 3) lying exhausted afterawrd. The same can be said about many things, but those things share few attributes of War. The point of war is to kill mass amounts of people and establish control of another country or city. I think the comparisons between ringfighting and war are a little "off".

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In your ONE fight Brian what state of mind did you adopt? one of a man making a cup of coffee?
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How did I feel in my fight? I felt sick...because, I was sick. Therefore, I was calm. The dude RAGED and tried to kick my ass, but he didn't. I was calm and I defended against his attack. He outweighed me and was much stronger than me. In my mind, it wasn't a true competition because I was sick during the fight. I shouldn't have competed, but I was stubborn. I said I was gonna fight and so I did. Yet, I did not get my ass kicked by a much stronger and much more aggressive opponent. I defended well. You probably would've called him a warrior, even though he wasn't performing that well. But he had muscles and he was aggressive.

I guess you wanted me to say "I wanted to kill him!! Just like war!!! It was a battle!!!"

More coming...

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