Just a quick note on this whole Jap - thing.

If someone finds it offensive basically you shouldn't use it. some people are more sensitive than others and in some countries different terms carry different meaning.

To be honest Matt, this is one of your hobby horses which you climb on at evey opportunity. And strictly speak the term "Jap" is an abreviation - however the derogatory association from memory, came from world war 2 & durring the 50-60s where the Japanese where coming through their technological and industrial revival - where many of their mass porducts products where known in the states as "Jap Crap".(and of course this is far from the case now)

Now I realise this is a completely different thread and maybe Matt, you should start another one off topic about it. But basically if someone uses a term inadvertently with out the itent of being racist and then apologises - let it go man, let it go! There are more important and resolvable things to discuss.

And if you still feel really strongly start another thead to educate us all - as we are a multi racial, multi cultural forum after all.

btw - I think Bakauw won too - alhtough Krasue did land some pretty effective shots which must be scored so there is a little bit of Mauy Thai blindness being displayed too.