The techno science babble is real helpful. You showed me. Let me go get my physiology book and name all the muscles in the middle of the body before I make any more statements.

Yes, I have studied the musculature of the body a bit although definitely not as educated as some here. Why would I get overly technical even if I could. Let's see there is rotation and stabilization and seems like maybe the muscles in the stomach area will get used while punching and kicking actions occur.

Yeah, Donald, do it all... leg raises, v-ups, bicycles, crunches, situps, passing the medicine ball. I have personally done many other exercises including haning leg raises but I'm thinking more along the lines of running people through basic exercises in the gym. Everything from not very fit beginner's to better conditioned athletes.

It's great to learn and question and try new things but I don't see much specifics in terms of new and better exercises and routines going on here.

People kind of put down bodybuilding and I can understand that an athlete doesn't want to do exactly what a bodybuilder does but also it should be understood that when bodybuilding started to become more popular then athletes became more interested and better educated in how to become bigger and stronger for the performance of their sport... and to look good for the ladies of course.