Leg kick-actually I talked about problems with hanging exercises above. How do the abs rotate the body? Hey, everyone can choose what they want. :)

There was another thread started on the actual exercises actually though I don't think alot has been put on it. I haven't been on line myself for a bit.

I think that core function should be assessed before starting an 'ab' routine.

If the TA isn't used then I think that should be delt with first. I think the exercises should start with learning how to use and then exercises that focus on its use.

Lower abs ability to stabilize the pelivis in relation to the weight of your legs as well.

Over all exercises-we talked above about the swiss ball cruntch I think.

I think there was mention of resting on elbows and toes. Superman stuff is great too.

But my personal opinion is that its an area to get assessed and work on for you. Everyone is different.

If you can squat 200lbs but can only squat 85lbs with TA activated and without '6-pak' taking over then for functional training and to strengthen TA in a way that it can actually be used in sport then you need to drop your squat to 85lbs untill your TA catches up (not just strength but brain/muscle conection and movement paterns etc.

So heres a tip. Tie a string around your waste when you belly button is drawn in just a little(activating TA). In any exercise you do the string should loosen. If it tightens during the exercise the weight is too heavy for your ability to stabilize the spine.

When you activate TA you'll get a little taller. Basically the muscles are holding you up taking the weight off your spine.

Lift with your spine or your muscles?

In Thailand the inward curve in the stomach (TA activated) was always taught. Most of us have a hard time with that especially when executing a power movement. That means we aren't using our core or full power potential.

Theres lots to it though. How you breath and use your diaphram etc all plays a part in core activation.

You will waste energy, limit power, risk injury, be slower in initiating movement (especially power) if the wrong muscles are doing the job I believe.

I'd study it for yourself or get a good trainer that assesses core function or not bother and do you're own thing. :)

Just a place of discussion and ideas :)