Mike, Scotty, Dixon - i take your points, and i dont disagree about the utmost importance of experience, let me respond in specifics.

Dixon: "Mark why dont you post up why Terry and I dont agree so people can see what the real problem is? You probably wont for the same reasons I dont. Then stop talking in riddles when everything that you write regarding officials is based around mine and Terry's discussions."

As far as i'm aware Dixon its about money, simple. That and you wanting to be presiding over every aspect of an event. Power and control issues - like it's ever going to change. If there is something more than that then I am not aware of it.
I dont think I speak in riddles.
Not everything is about you (and Terrys discussions).. get over yourself man, I was trying to be cool, but screw it.

"Mark after reading your posts of recent I believe that you would make a good Judicator so instead of sitting at home and watching it why not sit in front of the monitor and get paid for it? Your answer would be no because of your loyalty to Terry"

I wouldnt work for you Dixon full stop, bugger all to do with Terry - what were the judges scores again???? No riddles here pal - my perception of the prior situation we spoke heatedly about was that scores were altered, and the judges were left wondering who the hell did what. Suggestion has been that in last years Max event a similar situation also occured (Quite possiby didnt, but thats the word) Why put myself in such a situation? My perception may be hideously wrong.

Scotty: "So if that Does not give me any credibility as a K-1 Judge then i am Officialy handing my position as a K-1 JUDGE over to you Mark."

Never said you were lacking in credibility (or integrity for that matter)Scotty, and you well know that my inference was not as such. And as posted above, the Judges job is all yours pal.
Why is there no K1 qual to go along with all the other organisations you mention Scotty? My suggestion was that there would be a lot less mumblings and bullshit if the organisation was seen to be proactive in educating etc. The those with the experience can be suitably qualified, hence adding to the integrity of the organisation as a whole. Isnt it funny how many organisations fear education.

Mike: "Just quietly - I think both need to be taken into account BUT, you can have all the qualifcations in the world but without practical experience it means nothing."

See above.

"In an ideal world we would have a judges and referees course that was recognised by all santioning bodies in NZ which people were required to complete before judging or refereeing any fights."

Depends if the rules as written are going to be adhered to doesnt it, no point educating people if the basis of their education gets altered without reference or consultation.

Dixon, in closing, I was under the impression that we had gotten over our little hissy fits. Shit man, I had even offered an apology for ranting on too much. My comments were supposed to be constructive to some degree and offered my opinion as per Mikes requests. If my comments were misconstrued, then bugger it, I dont give a rats arse anymore.