markcr what the ??? man dont go your a pain in the you make some great points other times its very anti but ya know it offsets angove and his dribble so its like your the " ying to his yang ...lol his jedi to your sith... your umm umm sonny to his cher lol . I disagree with terry hill having total control to the reffing an judging side of it??? there is no set admin in new zealand for that so why should he be given carte blanch???. the powere thing is an issue for a few reasons ok if you have powers to appoint refs an judges thats a huge advantage especially when you dont have any financial input....its like ok ok pay me an whoever i suggest an they dont listen to anyone but me ???? im like oh yeahh umm surreeeee lol.This leaves open me than setting up judges courses an refs courses an getting paid for it and appointing them with out any benefit to the organiser financially??? wtf would a promoter do that ???The point is not about neautrality ist about financial gain an financial advantage ,you invest money into a project than you deserve the gain you wantsomeoen to pay you an than want him to not have a say ??? man what businessman is stupid enough to do that ??