Dan you have worked closely with Mr. Miles for a long time and I personally feel your motives may be suspect.


===Donald, I have not worked closely with Mr. Miles. In fact, I have never even met Mr. Miles in person.
I am not on anybody's payroll and I call it like I see it. Ask anyine onthis board who has dealt with me.
Actually,the first communication (an e-mail) I ever
received from Mr. Miles, was an email rebuking me for somethingI said on my website that he thought was unfair to his fighters. So, no, we don't always agree. In fact I don’t agree with a lot of the CAKMA rules.And I told him so.
But, we always respect each other, because we are open and frank and tell each other how we really feel.

I can work with a person like that. Ditto, Mr. Fossum. But, a person who believes he is above others and owes them no reply or explanation for anything-for me that presents a real problem.

But, never mind all that. Let's suppose for a momet, that it was absolutely true that I worked very closely with Mr. Miles for a long time.
Why would that make my motive for criticizing the commission or you "suspect"?? I would love to hear your answer to that.

In fact it would be most revealing. Because, it almost sounds like you accidentally revealed that there is some deep antagonism between you and Mr. Miles. If so, it needs to be cleared up for the good of the MT and the KB community in Calgary and Canada. Wouldn't you agree???======



"I remember reading a post(another board) from you that put a view forward to portray you and a supposed legal clerk in the States had a good understanding of Canadian law and the issues surrounding fighting legalities in Canada. You do not in my opinion based on what you presented. Have you been a matchmaker in the past for any one in Canada and if so how many times and for who?""



=======To answer your question, I dont make KB or MT matches. But, I do recommend fighters to promoters when they need to fill a spot on a card. And, I do make some womens boxing matches.
Anyway, I just posted my understanding of code sec 83 in a post direcly above this one. Go check it out and tell me where I am wrong.
instead of simply saying with no evidence that you don’t think I understand the code section. =====================



"Your claims about the Commission I sit on are ridiculous and completely unsubstantiated in my personal opinion. Interference and hinder and the like, just words Dan! Again as I have said from the beginning I will not discuss particulars of the Commission on which I sit. You can see Mr. Miles does the same."



======I can see why you wouldn’t want to discuss the particulars of the commission on which you sit-seeing how things have been done there in the past.
And that’s the problem, Donald. You say it is "ridiculous" but offer nothing to back that up. So, with all respect, its you that offers words with no facts to back them up. I have at least offered the facts as I believe them to be. Now if they are wrong, give us the right facts. Don’t just say its "ridiculous" and hide behind that.

Donald, You also said and I quote: "I will not discuss particulars of the Commission on which I sit." Donald, that is the height of arrogance. You owe it to the community you are sworn to serve to discuss particulars of the commission, because your secret commission "particulars" directly effect each and every fighter, trainers , judge, referee , promoter and fan in Canada. That attitude is appalling-and frankly has a lot to do with your PR problem.========



"Next I love to hear people quote only a small part of the code and give an opinion to others based on that. Mr. Miles has done around 300 cards and done them well in my opinion, illegal in any way I do not think so. "




============But I notice you don’t also "love" to share your legal perspicacity to enlighten us poor ignorant slobs who have such limited understanding. In fact, it seems you don’t like to give out facts to support anything you say. You just blow off what others say as "ridiculous" or that’s wrong" without telling us why it’s wrong, and why what you say is right. Well, sir, that just doesn’t cut it. Except perhaps with a few close friends who think you can do no wrong.==============


"What I am asking is for all to be informed plain and simple. I don't need to be represented as bad for sport because I disagree with anyone’s personal opinion. Also represented with qualities by individuals with the wrong facts. I know the job I do to make sport happen not make it not happen. I seriously doubt those who post against me here have a clue."



=======That's interesting! So then why do you tyhen steadfastly refuse to furnish any "facts" to anyone. All you do is say that others are "ridiculous" in your opinion. But, offer no verifiable facts to support what you say. ======



"It's the only place to my knowledge it has ever been used to stop any cards in the last 8 years. Ask those groups there which tact they think is right. They have been the ones not allowed to do cards. Not Alberta, B.C, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Quebec and so on."



======I have discussed sec 83 briefly in a separate post directly above this one. Please do me a favor and read it and tell why my understanding of it is wrong.I am not to proud to learn from others-if they are knowledgeable=====


"Section #83
I believe I am familiar with this section of the code and personally more importantly how it is interpreted and enforced in Canada. This is in fact what is not rocket science, any lawyer here can tell you the current status and how it is enforced and when it was last enforced, Dan!



========It says that only boxing under the supervision of a commission is legal. any other fighting is considered "prize fighting" and is illegal.
Now, of course, we all know it hasn’t been enforced so far-but it COULD based on the present wording of sec 83. And that’s precisely why we need to make the same exception for MT and KB that is made for boxing. That's what the petition urges the MP's to do.=========



Dan, the Criminal code of Canada is not being manipulated by a person connected to the Calgary Commission to think so would be in my opinion absurd.



========Donald, no one said it was being "manipulated" by anyone. I really don’t know where you got that from. I will say however, that I think that you and other commissioners have given your ideas and recommendations and opinions to the parliament. BTW, that is called "lobbying"- not manipulating.
So, that having been said, do you deny having offered your input with your special status as a commissioner to the lawmakers considering
the rewriting of sec 83?? yes, or no?.=========


"The way National code changes happen are not going to be manipulated so easy. WOW are those Commissions ever powerful,
all you have to do is sit on one and you can change Canadian law, right!"



=====Donald, No one said that-so please cut the obfuscation and the satire. ok?=====



"If you want your Sport to be legal get it included in the code, this is the only way to ensure its future in
Canada. Some have the opinion to have a sport excluded will do this, I personally do not."



=======Donald, As I read sec 83 of the criminal code, as of today, sec 83 only mentions boxing under the supervision of a commission. All other combat sports are deemed to be prizefighting which is illegal.
Do you disagree with that reading of the code? If yes, please explain why?
If not, wthen tell us why n should we not have our sports granted an exception to this code section which presently defines us as "prizefighting"? (which is illegal) BTW: Mark B, I would like to know how you read that section also,
since you obviously oppose the petition...======



"Make the changes to the Commissions and the code both if you want, do it right. Do not have any conflict
in the sport happening and get involved this is the way to make things happen, not slinging crap at some one Dan!."



===Donald, I tend to agree with you on one thing for sure: we should all use our real names-not nicknames.

In any event, I can't believe you are unaware of the deep resentments a number of people in the MT and KB community in Canada feel toward you. Your best friend(s) may be unaware, or possibly they could be
sycophants who do not want to tell you for fear of losing favor with you.

But I *will* tell you. But not for the purpose of being nasty or mean spirited; but, simply to get all this out in the open.
It’s been festering for way too long, and it needs to be cleared up once and for all. And that cannot be done by sweeping it all under the rug.Anbd talking behind each other's backs, and singing "Kumbaya" The time is past for all that.
.
So you need to know that there are a number of people the Canadian MT and KB community who are very unhappy with you. I have talked with atleast a dozen people who have given me this info that you say is all wrong.

So, suffice it to say, you have a major PR problem even if the info is totally wrong and you have donenothing improper. And that by itself is a major problem, and also an incredible PR failure for someone who works for the public.

Compounding the problem is your unbelievable refusal to "discuss specifics" of the how the commision works and makes decisions. That is unbelievably arrogant. Moreover, its inexcusable for a public servant to refuse to
give facts to the community he purports to work for. You behave as if the commission’s business is tantamount to some government secret effecting national security...We are talking about a boxing and wrestling
commission, for goodness sakes-not military secrets.

The public you purport to serve has a right to know when, how and why the decisions were made, or are currently being made by the commissions -because they are effected by those decisions. Hello!.

In fact, the minutes of every meeting should be reduced to writing and made available upon request to any Canadian citizen who requests a copy.
As for your anonymous critics, They are not going to say it on this board using their real name-because they don’t want to alienate a vice chair of a commission.. Especially, one who has a reputation, with a number of people (deserved or not) for using his position to punish individuals based on personal like or dislike of the individual.

Donald, a commissioner must be even handed and fair to all-even those he personally disagrees with or does not like. And I have talked at least a dozen people who say you do not treat everyone equally and fairly. I had fighters who tell me that when they came into your store to shop for equipment
that as soon as you discovered that they were from a certain gym, you became hostile to them, and made them feel unwelcome. Thats your privilge-its your store. But that does makes me think that you do let your bad feelings toward their trainer influence your business decisions as a commissioner which adversely effects his promotions.

If you have done nothing wrong, as you say, and its all a pack of malicious lies, then you still have a huge credibility problem with a at least a dozen
Canadian fighters and promoters. I have talked to these people. I didn’t just dream this up to persecute a man.

However, If they did, and they lied to me, shame on them. But, still you need to ask yourself, what in the world did you do to make them dislike you enough to do something like that? Are they simply jealous of all your good looks, generosity, intellect, virtue, and kindness? Think about it.

I have never met you or Mr Miles or anyone in Calgary. I just want to see these great cards start happening again

Now, They obviously stopped for some reason. And I suspect you know why...and you are not telling us. So, we are left to fill in the blanks because
you think you are so important that you owe no one an explanation for anything-including the MT and KB community you are paid to work for.

Then you get righteously indignant when people like me who want to see the great fight shows return to Calgary listen to others who do offer us explanations.

There is a real problem in Calgary, and it needs to be solved. And to accomplish thatthis stuff needs to be aired. You call it slinging crap, and then clam up and refuse to give the fans fighters and the public you serve any answers-Except to say that you disagree with something.

If my facts are wrong, please tell us what the real
facts are. To just say, I am slinging crap and my facts are wrong-is just talk.(to borrow a phrase from you) unless of course, you correct me point by point, stating where and WHY my facts are wrong-and then insert the "correct" facts in their place. If you show me with verifiable facts where I am wrong-Ill gladly apologize to you right here on this board take whatever embarrassment I deserve.

But so far, You have not done that. Instead you act like some potentate in a third world country who says he doesn’t have to explain anything to anyone-because " he da king. "

(In this case the vice chair of a city boxing and wrestling
commission- which would makes it very more funny-were it not so damned arrogant.)

You also sated that everything I said about the three events I mentioned was all "wrong, wrong, wrong".
.

Hiowever, Ria Ranmarine said the commissioners grilled her about her qualifications after that fight. You said that was wrong. And that you were there.
I guess you are saying she lied to me? I guess her manager, Martin McClashie also lied just to discredit you-he said the same thing!Damn! they even lie about you in Trinidad-Toibago?

Donald...other people who were there said the commissioners did question her. So, Donald what’s the truth? Is everyone slandering the poor commissioners?

Now, about the The second show Mssrs Miles and Crawford scheduled in the new Sun Centre: It most certainly *was* cancelled at the last minute by a complaint to the fire Marshal, after the bldg had already held previous events and inspections-yet you have the un mitigated gall to say that was not true. How can say that and hope to be credible?

I also said the third event at the military base was followed up by threats of a huge fine from the commission.

Yet, you just said all M.r Miles events were legal. So what’s up with that? Do you deny that also? Do you think the other people who know
about all this don’t read this board???? You say all that is wrong-but don't offer any alternative facts.

That makes me think maybe you don’t have any facts to refute any of this. You just say its "ridiculous" and hope to convince people that someone who
lives in another country and has never met you just decided to "sling crap" at you for no reason at all??

No, Sir. You show me some other reasonable explanations that can be verified, and Ill be happy to apologize. This is not personal.(at least on my end)

Donald, I don’t even know you. And I most assuredly prefer to make new friends, not new enemies.

Donald, I just want all the great shows we used to have in Calgary to resume.
You know They didn’t stop having shows just cause the promoters could have some reason to criticize the commission -instead of making a living.

Its so obvious that something happened to stop those events.

Now. what was it Donald? You said you were there. So, Let’s hear your side of the story. Maybe the commission was right. But how can we know that, if you exercise yoru right to remain silent? I for one am willing to listen. I bet lots of others would also give you a fair hearing, and really want to know the truth.Honest communication is the only way to resolve differences.===




""These are two different aproaches and as I said there are various opinions on the proper tact to take, I am simply putting another option forward. I do know there are many groups here in Canada that have been working to finally getting sports made legal, not to stay illegal as they have in the past. ""



==Yes, and so are those of us who support the petition to give MT and KB the
same "exemption:" as is now granted to boxing under sec 83, which thankfully has not been enforced to date.===


"I wish all those involved in these sports and I mean all good luck finding the road to success in these manners."


==So do we all, Donald. But we need to work together and that means communication-not stonewalling and withholding information,
making commission decisions in secret, and refusing to supply facts.
=======