Mark L.


2005-07-06 21:56:20 ( time)


Mark L. writes:

It would be interesting to see what steps must be met to do a show in Calgary.

======Mark, It certianly would!!!! And Mr Boswell could easily post all the commisson sanctioning requirements right here. He's the vice chair, Why doesnt he? I leave it to him to answer that. But I wont hold my breath for an answer.

I am am simply expressing my concern, Mark, because MT in Calgary came to a virtual stand still about a year ago. And many Canadian fans and fighters , and promoters alike say the commission has made it difficult if not impossible for Mr Miles and Mr Craword to continue.

I do believe there is some truth to that for the following reasons:

1. Promoters dont just go out of business voluntarily so they can slag poor Mr Boswell and the commission. Surely you know the promoters just decied to stop their onw shows so they could crtise the commission? Of course, so what or
betr yet, "WHO" stopped these shows?


Answers? Try these: the Canadians posting in this thread are essentially sayng the same thing i have with mpore specifics:

for example: . Brad Wall


2005-07-06 22:57:30 ( time)


Brad Wall writes:

Mark, we used to have awesome fight cards, and plenty of them. In the past several years we've seen constant rule changes (I have personally seen as an athlete competing in Calgary). We've had fight cards cancelled unfairly from someone. Some athletes have been unfairly grilled by the comission. The comission even placed an article in the SUN to basically slam CAKMA. Really the what are we left to believe. How has this helped. What things are happening? Less fight cards for Calgary athletes and their fans. Sorry but before there wasn't all this crap to put up with. I guess you wouldn't understand because you don't live in the area.

NEXT:

2005-07-06 22:45:13 ( time)


CompleteKicker writes:

Mark, they put a friggin ad in the paper denouncing the event on the reserve. Is that not a concrete action to stop/hinder the success of that event? But maybe you didn't see the ad, so it doesn't exist right?

You're friends with Donald, so in his own words maybe your motives are "suspect".You talk with such authority, please tell us WHY CAKMA couldn't/can't get sanctioning for an event?

I would LOVE, LOVE to read all of the communications between the CWBC and CAKMA, or any other promotor trying to put on a fight card.

Is that information public domain, I highly doubt it.

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ballkick writes:


2005-07-06 05:10:50 ( time)


ballkick writes:

There are some other little tidbit’s that have not been mentioned here as of yet.

The last CAKMA fight card which was held on the Tsuu T'ina Indian Reserve just outside the city limits. Had to be held there due to the constant meddling of the Calgary Boxing and Wrestling Commission and undoubtedly some of its members, just out of reach of there underhanded campaign. It is sad that it had to come to this for everyone involved. But nonetheless it had to be this way to enjoy this exciting, but currently threatened sports event.
The final incident that really put this whole conflict of interest mess into perspective for me. And subsequently led me to really question the motives of the Calgary Boxing and Wrestling commission. Was the advertisement put in the local paper, the day prior to the fight card. It clearly stated (on page 8 of the Calgary Sun, if memory serves me correctly) that the commission was not liable for any of the proceedings and from the wording wanted readers and fighters alike, to believe that this may not be a safe environment for the spectators and participants. It also stated that the Commission was not sanctioning the card.
I was personally outraged as a Calgarian that my tax dollars were misappropriated for this unwarranted and useless public announcement. The only purpose served by this, was to try one last time to poke a finger into the eye of the promoters. I would be quite interested to find out just how much of "our tax" money went towards this scare tactic.
I'll bet it wasn't cheap!
If you truly had no jurisdiction, then why did you guys even bother to make any statement? Oh and don’t bother trying to tell me it was for legal reasons because I don’t believe that for a millisecond. All the past undermining leads me to believe otherwise.
I am left to believe the only reason that makes any sense to me is spite. Vindictive spite, hiding behind legal mumbo jumbo to try and discredit the promoters the participants and the First Nations Band involved in holding this fight card. A desperate and pathetic gesture at best.

You readers might also be interested to know that another Kickboxing and MMA card held the following week - end went on totally unencumbered by you fine folks at the Commission. In fact in the very same daily paper it was advertised quite blatantly that it had your complete and utter support. Oh did I mention that the promoters of this card are on much friendlier terms with D.B. and his flock of sheep.
I read several; no make that a whole lot of post by the perennial loudmouth Mr. Brackenberry. Supporting this card and defending any and all cynic’s who posted anything derogatory about this event. No doubt he would have gladly shouted its virtues from every rooftop in the nation if given the chance.
It made me wonder if he was getting a percentage of the gate.
Too bad we couldn't get him on board for our petition.
We could use someone with his affliction: diarrhea of the mouth.

As a Calgarian, a taxpayer and a MT fan I am going to be the first to call for the total dissolution of the Calgary Boxing and Wrestling Commission. Your reign of terror needs to come to an end.
Mr. Boswell, You remind me of Richard M Nixon, denying any misstep till the bitter end, while full of paranoid delusions of grandeur to boot. There is something corrupt going on here. As you and yours are so fond of saying "it's not rocket science".
The fact is that Mr. D.B. is totally unwilling to answer his detractors and foolishly arrogant enough to take the posture of "I don’t have to tell you anything, you’re not boss over me."
That say's to me that there is some seedy society of old boys trying to promote their own brand of fairness. Not a public openly fair commission concerned with the promotion of "ALL" combative sport’s in Calgary.

BTW Don I didn't see you at Reserve Judgment.
But did see you a few weeks later at the Red and White Club for your pet sport Boxing. Standing at center ring smiling for photo opportunities and helping promote boxing while spouting accolades for the fighters, trainers and special guests. Why won’t you do that for a CAKMA card Don?
Never mind Don, we don’t want to see your fashion statement of a plaid shirt and jeans.
On another personal/ professional note Donny, I've only met you once in person, while trying to purchase a pair of boxing gloves as a birthday present for somebody. Upon entering your store and revealing my affiliation with National Kickboxing your demeanor changed significantly. It was a bitter enough experience for me to never set foot in your business again. This occurred years before I knew any of the B.S. that goes on behind the scenes between you and Kickboxing/Muay Thai promoters affiliated with Mr. Miles.

I will admit that Mr. Miles is not the easiest guy in the world to get along with sometimes and he can be pretty unapproachable sometimes. But to his credit he has at least done more for kickboxing in Canada in a month, than you have during your entire tenure on the commission.
I'm sorry to tell you that the only honorable thing that you have to do that would bring credibility and integrity back to the commission would be to step down.
Resign from your position and prove your commitment to the cities fighters and their respective sports.
Would you do that Don?
Please?

Because I agree with a growing number of sport fans in this city, and now around the world that you are a malevolence that needs to be eradicated.

NEXT: CompleteKicker


2005-07-06 15:21:21 ( time)


CompleteKicker writes:

hmm...Nail on the Head? I think so

NEXT:

Mr Fossum makes a good suggestion for Mr Bosell: see the last sentence of Mr Fossum's post below. I agree whoileheartedly

HERE IT IS:

IKF Kickboxing
main@ikfkickboxing.com
www.IKFKickboxing.com
2005-07-05 19:02:11 ( time)


IKF Kickboxing writes:

There is an old saying that applies here and I think the Canadian Comm. needs to hear it. Even us here at the IKF have to admit to the public when we have errored, made a mistake, etc. etc.. Several here have poked at the IKF in negative ways. Some truthful and some not, but when not, we respond with the truth to try and clear up the issue(s). However, when truthful, we "ACT" upon it and make the change, correction etc. We don't just make up more excuses and BS to side step the truth of the issue.

All this brings me to the saying I was talking about, which until you prove to everyone here differently, even you Mr. Boswell have to admit to yourself that when people like Dan point things out, you either need to defend yourself with FACTS or FIX the problem. I believe why neither is being done is because of the reality of the quote I mentioned which is...

"The TRUTH" hurts, doesn't it."

And from past experoence, we have all been corrected. What makes us different is knowing, "With great power comes great responsibility."

Mr. boswell,
Whether you or I or any other Commission or Sanctioning body, regardless of our "Firm" and "stubborn" ways, THE TRUTH is what needs to be followed. We NEED to not just LISTEN to the participants of the sport(s) we represent but also REPRESENT them all in the best intersst for these SPORTS. In the end, you are either HELPING the SPORT(s) or HURTING the Sport(s). For whatever reason, it appears here you are trying more to HURT Kickboxing, Muay Thai and MMA than HELP these sports.

All of us in commission positions have a BOSS to answer, and our boss' are the very people we represent. If we fail them, we fail what we represent, which means, we would need to find a new job.



finally Heres what I think comes closest of all to describing what may actually be happening in Calgary. Because Mr Miles also had a show stopped in Edmonton at the last minute:

EagleKnee wrote:


2005-07-05 19:28:44 ( time)


EagleKnee writes:

Hypotheticaly speaking.....lets say,

Mike approaches the Edmonton boxing commission to hold an amateur MT event in Edmonton and is told by the commission that major extra expenses would need to be paid to the commission to sanction the event because they did not at that time recognize the Canadian Muay Thai Councel - Amateur (CMTC-A) as the sanctioning body.

Mike is appalled and develops bad relations with the Edmonton board.

Then, the Edmonton fight fans speak up and start asking the Edmonton commission questions as to why Calgary can hold these events and Edmonton(BTW is the capital of Alberta) cannot.

Edmonton MT fans develop bad relations with the Edmonton commission.

The Edmonton commission takes aggressive action to so call level the playing field and conspire with the Calgary commission to shut him down there as well.

Of course now.....no one would ever admit to such inside political B.S.

This is just my personal thoughts on the matter and would gladly accept a differant explanation as to why this is happening in Calgary.

If anything....I think Don was letting the events happen because of his love for the sport and someone higher than himself(from the Calgary commission)informed him of the issues going on in Edmonton and was possibly ordered to shut it all down.......again please........this is just some of my thoughts...I am not claiming to state any facts here....just things I am thinking.

Good luck to Mike and all of Nationals fighters that they get what they aspire and deserve for all their hard work to make MT possibly in Canada.

So mark, in closing (for now) may ask why y ou dont ask Mr Boswell to answer the allegations and concerns made here. and POST all the commission's sanctioning requirements? (instead of asking ME who lives 7,000 miles away in the USA to do it? )

But, hey , I understand. Mr Boswell can more safely blast me and say nothing to the others in this thread (whom I have quoted) Funny they have all said essentially what I have said-but he we wants it look as though it all came from me. NOT!

By the way, mark, I have asked Mr Bosweell three times why the commsioners girl from Trinida (a worlkdtitle holder) who fought Erin Linley in the suncenter)

Notice, mark, that even Brad Wall says in his post that fighters have been grilled by the commission.

and The girl (Ria Ranmarine said that too-so did her manager. But Mr Boswell said that was "wrong." Everyone is wrong but him? do you really think People in Trindad also have a grudge against Boswell?

come on Mark, you KNOW Mr Mr Boswell harbors bad feeling towards Mr Miles
.
read Ball kick's post again.

Think about it. why else would Boswell immediatley say the following:

"Dan you have worked closley with Mr Miles for a long time and I personally feel your motives may be suspect"


Get that: he says my motives are suspect simply for having worked closely with Mr Miles? He certainly wouldnt say that of he considered Mr Miles a friend and a colleaqgue-now would he?

Don could solve all his PR problems (which are of his own making) if he would stop being so arrogant, and condescending-and reach out to Mr Miles in friendship.

is that asking too much?

Dan