Wow-you guys have it good there!!!! Here is horrible.

Maybe I should say US docs but then it might get pollitical..

I don't really know the world scene as well as I know Canada and US. Not that I know them that well (and Britain isn't much better I think).

I do know that Oz has its problems too.

I guess this being a site with a world wide group I should be clearer.

Here the gouvernment kneels down to the money (infact I think they come wearing knee pads).

4 basic food groups-comes from the industries not the health experts but is taught in school. I found out yesterday they still do it!!!!

Then the US came out with the food pyramid. This was after many years of complaints by scientist and doctors about the 4 basic food groups. Finally when the gov started to listen the food lobbies (huge money) freaked!!! They put out a mix of what the docs/scientists wanted and what the food lobbies wanted.

At the time the grain lobbies had the strength wow the pyramid had grains as the base for a healthy diet.

Then I'm at a course and I'm told that the grain lobbies had lost strength and the dairy lobbies gained strength. I raised my hand and asked if it was likely the recommendations on diet would change. They thoguht so.

A few months later in the newspaper there were new US dietary guidelines.
Dairy was up and grains had dropped.

The point is the pharm lobbies etc are huge too and if anyone thinks that they are in it for your well being you are sadly mistaken.

Good to hear its not as bad there.

But here-there are alot of deaths and health issues, I mean ALOT, related to , added to, encouraged by etc etc the systems that are suppose to be there to help us...or we think thats why they're there.