Brian, take it easy mate. I know food can have a lot of emotional attatchment but its just discussion.

Its funny how long people can be unhealthy and survive or even do well.

Example how people eat junk foods and over train and seem to do great. Then we don't here from them and they've quit and we say they go told when if you look at things closely there body is messed up.

Actually if you've read anything I've said you'll know I don't believe in one diet for everyone either. There were native S Americans on a very low meat/meat products diet that were very healthy (but they did have some).

I'd like to see evidance of any healthy ancient culture that ate no meat/animal products.

One sixe fits all-do your homework. Thats my biggest prob with most experts is they say eat this way or that. Everyone is different.

I don't eat oranges. They are not good for me but I know that oranges ARE good for many people.

The curch I was brought up in is veg and I know tons of veggies. Though I was never strict in term of not eating I rarely did cause we never had it at home.

Fitness and health are not the same thing. The body is quite amazing and can get by even though we do crazy things to it.

Its funny that degenerative disease was almost unheard of amoung native cultures all around the world, all of whom ate meat/meat products, at least as far as I have heard.

I'd say Chek is actually quite a sound researcher in my opinion.

He makes his money from making people healthy not really in selling any books on health.

When you're job is rehabbing people you only get to charge what he does by getting results.

A different view point is cool but accusing of an aggenda very strongly with very litle research. Something your are accusing of (funny how things like that happen).

How can you call Faith a misconception.

Well if you believe that physical, mental, emotion, spiritual etc etc all effect each other then distroying your physical health will effect your spiritual-regardless of your beliefs.

Try it. Eat oreos for 10 straight days and see how into your beliefs you can get. :)

Treat Paul like a God... ok Brian, lets not get carried away.

Anyway, how do you know? Have you met him? :P