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thaisoon17
Posted: 2006-08-21 20:43:33
Posted: 2006-08-21 20:43:33
right, watching night of combat so thought id post on this as someone from KO rang me to say it was all kicking off again. Alan i will try to answer your points in turn
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exclude Liam Robinson from this as he comes on ax under alias users like pinsinchai, global, buakow boy, thaisoon 17, Justin Lauavigne, etc etc and slags people of especially my fighters then expects us to be happy with him doing any judging!! he is a disgrace to judging and does not bring impartiality to the sport.He should be aware that ip address give u away! as a result of this I expect Tony Myers as his trainer to put him straight on this and perhaps he needs 'educating'. How the hell can his view be impartial when he comes on here under alias users because he is afraid to put his name to it. He cannot deny it! impartiality starts at home!!!
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Firstly buakow boy and pinsinchai name change was agreed by the moderator and allowed to be changed everyboy knew who it was as it had my name on the profile global was created when a number of us were banned for slagging farhad including student from your own gym who comes on as phil parks, mary hinge etc so they like to use alias too, the password to global was distributed to more than 20 email address's, yes it was stupid and it ended up with sandy holt using it in the end and when caught and confronted he said he got it from me but it was not me posting the stupid comments about your gym, i was in thailand at the time as more than 1 person will confirm. have never heard of justin Lauavigne so i cannot comment on that one. The only reason i ever came back on as thaisoon17 was that a group of people (not badco) were asking me to post regarding judging etc and sent me the password and username, it is not my email address etc and this can also be prooved should you wish. I have not tried to hide on these names they are cimply nicknames like u would have on MSN etc. My name is up there on the profile and age, weight, gym so its obvious its me
and on the pinsinchai etc profiles it had pictures of me aswell. I agree that you are entitled to an opinion of me but i havent had any dealings with you since i helped u out going with that big black dude at samit munramans interclub, i have no sour grapes about mike showers he was a top guy and i was a kid fighting out of a totally different gym etc no problems there at all, i dont really know of any of your other fighters barr kieron who i hadnt seen fight for donkeys years and nicky i saw fight once and thought she was v.good, havent slagged anyone and have no reason to.
I dont understand why you didnt talk to me at golden belt about it when we were gassing for a long time or at pain and glory when we were chatting for quite some time aswel? If i had said something and was scared to show my face i wouldnt have been standing talking to you and tat2, mike etc at p&g. I do not have a low opinion of you or your gym it seems like you want to be hated for some reason, the only thing i would ever question is the rows u get into on the internet but i dont want involving in them please. I can understand if you thought i slated ur fighters that u didnt want me judging the fight of showers and cadden and if i had judged it i would have given it to cadden, not because i am friendly with him or i dislike mike or am jealous that he beat me over 3x2 when i was a kid at the tower, simply becasue he lost the fight fair and square under muay thai scoring critera.
I dont know if you recieved the mail or not but i emailed your brother shaun twice and had no reply asking him to forward the mail to you when i first got wind of being blamed for the foul comments from global, im sorry to say that there are people out there that dislike you and abused the account which was originally intended for an ongoing silly off topic row with farhad. Not sure if you ignored the email or weather it did not reach you but it explained all of the above and also had my mobile number, yes i have opinions as do a lot of people on here and you are welcome to disagree with them and dislike me should you choose but you cannot call me impartial i would be 100% happy for every scorecard i have ever completed to be published on the internet and checked for consistency by any top judge. i have never and would never be influenced by any fighters name, gym, colour, country, home town show or anything else.
I can name a number of very close fights where no-one would have battered an eyelid had i given a draw for example our own fighter nazars first fight with eric from master skens on the warrington show but i gave it against our lad by 1 point. I explained to tony after and he thought it was quite close but agreed that nazar would benefit more from the loss and would boost his training etc.
There are others but i would be here all night. I have never and would never CHEAT as a judge. There was more for me to write but im tired and night of combat has finished now so im going to bed, you can get my mobile number from tony and or email address if you would like to talk about it in private or i will chat to you happily at next show. This isnt a come see me at the next show and say it to my face kinda thing so please dont take it as such. I dont understand why this is come up on this thread now for but im glad it had and i hope when we chat it can be smoothed over as it is pointless, if you dont want me to judge when your boxers fight that is entirely up to you but if they are fighting muay thai correctly id say they would have a greater chance of a points victory should it go to the cards as i would be scoring using the correct MT critera. apologies to everyone else reading this essay or getting RSI from scrolling past the mile long passage it shouldnt be on this shows thing but people do need to hear the truth and not chinese whispers or modified stories. Yes i had alias to takedown farhad but the person from your gym who u know (who i wont name as he makes me laugh and is good mates with a good friend of mine) has had more than me and still continues to use them on here and he is from your own gym.
I havent slated kierons fight on here either and i didnt see all of it so i cant comment but what i did see was even or everso slightly in favour of the thai. I also thought the girls fight was correct and samkors was clear enough and the wakeling one. Trainors one im perplexed as to how it could have been a majority but there u go and you have named him on your top judges list above.
I hope some good does come out of this and people understand the scoring a little more and recognise good judges and give them the credit they deserve.
Cheers for the support from the other names above. email me if you want anything else clearing up so we dont totally muller this threat. Thanks.
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exclude Liam Robinson from this as he comes on ax under alias users like pinsinchai, global, buakow boy, thaisoon 17, Justin Lauavigne, etc etc and slags people of especially my fighters then expects us to be happy with him doing any judging!! he is a disgrace to judging and does not bring impartiality to the sport.He should be aware that ip address give u away! as a result of this I expect Tony Myers as his trainer to put him straight on this and perhaps he needs 'educating'. How the hell can his view be impartial when he comes on here under alias users because he is afraid to put his name to it. He cannot deny it! impartiality starts at home!!!
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Firstly buakow boy and pinsinchai name change was agreed by the moderator and allowed to be changed everyboy knew who it was as it had my name on the profile global was created when a number of us were banned for slagging farhad including student from your own gym who comes on as phil parks, mary hinge etc so they like to use alias too, the password to global was distributed to more than 20 email address's, yes it was stupid and it ended up with sandy holt using it in the end and when caught and confronted he said he got it from me but it was not me posting the stupid comments about your gym, i was in thailand at the time as more than 1 person will confirm. have never heard of justin Lauavigne so i cannot comment on that one. The only reason i ever came back on as thaisoon17 was that a group of people (not badco) were asking me to post regarding judging etc and sent me the password and username, it is not my email address etc and this can also be prooved should you wish. I have not tried to hide on these names they are cimply nicknames like u would have on MSN etc. My name is up there on the profile and age, weight, gym so its obvious its me
and on the pinsinchai etc profiles it had pictures of me aswell. I agree that you are entitled to an opinion of me but i havent had any dealings with you since i helped u out going with that big black dude at samit munramans interclub, i have no sour grapes about mike showers he was a top guy and i was a kid fighting out of a totally different gym etc no problems there at all, i dont really know of any of your other fighters barr kieron who i hadnt seen fight for donkeys years and nicky i saw fight once and thought she was v.good, havent slagged anyone and have no reason to.
I dont understand why you didnt talk to me at golden belt about it when we were gassing for a long time or at pain and glory when we were chatting for quite some time aswel? If i had said something and was scared to show my face i wouldnt have been standing talking to you and tat2, mike etc at p&g. I do not have a low opinion of you or your gym it seems like you want to be hated for some reason, the only thing i would ever question is the rows u get into on the internet but i dont want involving in them please. I can understand if you thought i slated ur fighters that u didnt want me judging the fight of showers and cadden and if i had judged it i would have given it to cadden, not because i am friendly with him or i dislike mike or am jealous that he beat me over 3x2 when i was a kid at the tower, simply becasue he lost the fight fair and square under muay thai scoring critera.
I dont know if you recieved the mail or not but i emailed your brother shaun twice and had no reply asking him to forward the mail to you when i first got wind of being blamed for the foul comments from global, im sorry to say that there are people out there that dislike you and abused the account which was originally intended for an ongoing silly off topic row with farhad. Not sure if you ignored the email or weather it did not reach you but it explained all of the above and also had my mobile number, yes i have opinions as do a lot of people on here and you are welcome to disagree with them and dislike me should you choose but you cannot call me impartial i would be 100% happy for every scorecard i have ever completed to be published on the internet and checked for consistency by any top judge. i have never and would never be influenced by any fighters name, gym, colour, country, home town show or anything else.
I can name a number of very close fights where no-one would have battered an eyelid had i given a draw for example our own fighter nazars first fight with eric from master skens on the warrington show but i gave it against our lad by 1 point. I explained to tony after and he thought it was quite close but agreed that nazar would benefit more from the loss and would boost his training etc.
There are others but i would be here all night. I have never and would never CHEAT as a judge. There was more for me to write but im tired and night of combat has finished now so im going to bed, you can get my mobile number from tony and or email address if you would like to talk about it in private or i will chat to you happily at next show. This isnt a come see me at the next show and say it to my face kinda thing so please dont take it as such. I dont understand why this is come up on this thread now for but im glad it had and i hope when we chat it can be smoothed over as it is pointless, if you dont want me to judge when your boxers fight that is entirely up to you but if they are fighting muay thai correctly id say they would have a greater chance of a points victory should it go to the cards as i would be scoring using the correct MT critera. apologies to everyone else reading this essay or getting RSI from scrolling past the mile long passage it shouldnt be on this shows thing but people do need to hear the truth and not chinese whispers or modified stories. Yes i had alias to takedown farhad but the person from your gym who u know (who i wont name as he makes me laugh and is good mates with a good friend of mine) has had more than me and still continues to use them on here and he is from your own gym.
I havent slated kierons fight on here either and i didnt see all of it so i cant comment but what i did see was even or everso slightly in favour of the thai. I also thought the girls fight was correct and samkors was clear enough and the wakeling one. Trainors one im perplexed as to how it could have been a majority but there u go and you have named him on your top judges list above.
I hope some good does come out of this and people understand the scoring a little more and recognise good judges and give them the credit they deserve.
Cheers for the support from the other names above. email me if you want anything else clearing up so we dont totally muller this threat. Thanks.
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