I was brought up in a church that suppose to be veg. They are known for being 'healthy' too. But one needs to be aware that healthier than the general population doesn't mean much of anything. The general population is F%$#^$# sick!!! A couple percent better health than them is a pretty low goal. Most people who eat veg/vegan are trying to be somewhat healthy. So the effort alone, less booze, smoking etc etc They have to be a bit healthier.

Now the meat of today IS pretty nasty and that will play a factor too.

Cows (just like people) fed grains are not healthy cows (thats why grass fed non-medicated over organic, both being champ). The ratios of fats in them are different, the quality of protein and fats in them are different. Most meat you buy today IS toxic.

Toxins are stored in fat. They make the animals fat to sell for more MONEY by feeding them things that are toxic too them so they put on fat. Quite simple. Anything from cement dust, carboard, never mind the nasty stuff, even little plastic pellets, never mind grains and of course antibiotics. All make a cow FATTER FASTER and there for more MONEY. (note we eat lots of grains and antibiotics too hmmm)

So the quality of meat we eat will play a factor when compared to those a. trying to eat 'healthy' by not eating meat b. living healthier because they are trying to be healthy (maybe less drinking, smoking, less junk food, no meat won't get you far at fast food joints etc etc

I went to a place not so long ago where they were all vegan. There was a body builder there. I had asked if they all were and they said yes. And pointed him out and said I could talk to him (they knew I was an athlete) I politely declined :) My point is though that most of them had that malnurished, pale pasty look..

That is not proof of anything-doesn't mean they are doing it 'right'-but it is something I do see in most vegans.

Just my opinions.

Any attempt at health is on the right track in my opinion.