fair enuf Andrew. You made your points and i made mine.One thing is clear.We disagree. You may be right for the first time when you say im old skool.Even that your Muay-Thai is stronger than mine.subjective opinion.Maybe even 100% spot on.But my rugby league is way ahead of yours buddy,and i know a tackle when i see one.there is a video of it remember.Lets see if the defensive technique you say was A Muay Thai based technique or a clumsy, rushed attempt to get in close and hold your opponent.One thing is true for me though Andrew,in 64 fights i stayed awake for every one,though i was rattled a few times,even stopped in the boxing ring, and that i wont deny.If it makes any difference to you my life has been affected by that fight,and a few more since then that haunt me sometimes.If you want me to suffer,believe me Andrew i have dude.Im going to ask you to put it behind you Andrew.Move forward.Forgive me even.For things ive said and things ive done.Maybe if we did sit down and talk and be open and humble we can see things through different eyes.Be the bigger man.Your twice my size after all! I will be trying to get on with things myself.If we stay going around the same old mountain then its a sad future for all of us concerned.