dark shows you the light


I think another angle is that the conscious operates after the sense information has been processed. The light information enters through the eyes (and skin) and is processed ...the processing compares to all passed experiences, our beliefs and thoughts on all of them (among other things) and then we interpret it and see a tree or a beautiful woman etc...

The thing is we don't see the tree or woman without the information being filtered through our beliefs, programming and past experiences... the thought then comes but it is not really a conscious thought of our own, just a conscious thought we are aware of..

Pick up the Bible or the Gita and you cannot study it without the info passing through your subconscious mind and comparing to all your programmed beliefs (much of which is programmed in before 7 years old), past related experiences etc you will find what you are looking for... truth or bullshit (even if you don't know that is what you are looking for...)

Now this is to a degree, although a large one, we can have no experience, no sense info enter our body and mind, without judgment and filters... we think we think for oursleves but we can only do that if we look at our programming, become aware of it, choose what programming serves and what we want to keep, load the programming we want, and change what doesn't serve or be conscious enought o be aware of it when it kicks in..

Don't think thats true - try to respond with conscious thought to the question and your answer for a week when people say "hows it going?" good luck...

92%of brain function is subconscious...programs run the subconscious -whats your programming...

memetics is worth looking into on this one in my opinion..

you talk in a sense of dark showing you the light...

tell me, can you recognize anything without recognizing its relative polar opposite?

How can you see a woman and think she is beautiful without have a comparison to what is not beautiful? If you only ever felt 20 degrees you would have no concept of hot and cold... simply not possible to have an experience without relative opposites. you only know hot because it is hotter than... or cold cause it is colder than...

To recognize one you must recognize the other (all really just a sliding scale - relativity)

It is learning from the "dark" and pain that moves us into the light...

bang your head against the wall - it hurts... got a choice, bang some more or stop... simple concept yet we all do it daily it seems... we do the same thing with the same painful result instead of going... you know what - hitting my head against the wall hurts...

Know why it is so hard to stop??? cause we are not operating out of conscious awareness and not truly thinking for self. Its the programs, beliefs and -perceptions- of past experiences that our thinking and sense input goes through... unless the programs are looked at we cannot have freedom of choice (some may call self control)

Its is our beliefs in our being right that makes others wrong (to us)... Christians kill Muslims and Muslims kill Christians...

The Nazi's believed they were good and right they were not evil in their minds - but in creating I am right they created you are wrong and killed mass loads of people. Their "good" created "evil" (Jews etc)...

you cannot see a woman and think she is beautiful without comparing to others being ugly or less beautiful...

(this is not all meant to be black and white but concepts to express a point - relative you see :P)

Would some of the greats be great without adversity and pain??? who knows - generally the greats have learned from it and have often thanked it. Armstrong (if I recall) said cancer was the best thing that ever happened to him)

It is not what is but how we see it and we can only see it clearly when we are conscious and choose how to see it... often there is lots of programmed beliefs and past experience perceptions (change the perception and filters change for how you experience life)...

example - fall in love - get heart broken
in the subconscious (could also be in conscious) love and pain are linked. You cannot experience a new relationship without the subconscious (if not also conscious) comparing to all past relationships... if you have pain in the past that is still stored or "hard wired" (dentrites, neronets etc) then you will experience love through the filters connected with pain... change the perception and judgment of the past experience = change the hardwiring and your perception ina relationship changes.

put on different glasses and the whole world changes colour...and maybe a lot more.

at least that is part of my deluded perception which I would like to think comes from conscious thought

(studies on brain washing and memetics suggest that only 2% of the worlds population have access to their own brains)

No riddle me this - how conscious are you when you get upset or angry? You are simply operating out of past programming, experience, beliefs...

Why would it matter if someone hasd another opinion? cause the ego holds onto its identity of beliefs as though it was its life..