Crippler thankyou, i can only write down what i see and if my vision is obscured then there are always two other judges who might see it better from there angle, theres nothing more annoying than a fighter or trainer spitting there dummy out because they thought they had won, at the end of the day its not your opponents fault that the scores went his way or draw etc thats down to the referee and judges and providing your dealing with a reputable organision you can QUIETLEY AND POLITLEY ask for a second opinion, which would result in the dvd footage being forwarded to a top independent referee/judge for there opinion and if that independent agrees with you then it would be awarded to your fighter end of.