Nephilim writes:

"No offence neil but modified Kyukoshin karate rules IS basically a modifed thai boxing. Since the style of karate is KNOWN as you say as the hardest and toughest of karate styles BECAUSE of muay thai influence."

No offence taken and I agree with your comment on the Muaythai influence and result there of. Still, I was bringing to peoples attention that there are different view points. Some people actually think that Seido just copied Muaythai and watered it down, where others think that they expanded their system.

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Nephilim writes:

"Just feeling a bit protective of my discpline here. And don't describe thai boxing as kickboxing. It's like confusing snooker with pool."

And here in lies the reason for the situation confusion. In the UK there is a strong and determined insistance on the term 'Thai Boxing'. Fair enough, its a free country.

Yet in many other countries, wether you like it or not, Muaythai is refered to as Thai-Kickboxing or even Kickboxing.

When you watch the next 'K-1 World Grandprix', or the next 'ITS SHOWTIME' event, you may be happily watching Modified Muaythai or Modified Thai-Boxing where as someone else may be happily watching Kickboxing.

... now where was that TV guide listing again for the Master Sken show on SKY, oh yes there it is KICKBOXING.

:)