"The bible tells us though that whatever our strengths and weaknesses, assuming one compensates for the other, were all made equal."
This may be related - Jung talks about the inner and outer (trying to simplify and shorten so terminology and depth lacking here) and how if the outer is one way the inner is generally the other - balance... This is of course in part and not complete... Example... the more masculine a man on the outer the more often the inner to have more of the feminine qualities (all humans have both qualities and this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with sexuality). Jung suggests, as I understand him, that the less emotion one consciously connects with in the outer the more emotion lives in the unconscious (which certainly influence the conscious) -note how childish expression of emotion (emotions are more feminine) some "tough" guys act (example of pro fighters crying/being pissed off after loosing a fight - seen this)

ok back to reading your last post and if time I'll reread rest (my daughter and wife are sleeping lol)

"So as oppose to a route being mapped for us, perhaps were just reacting with every situation and fitting in as best we can.
If you could calculate all the variables, put numbers on certain characteristics and other variables in the situation, maybe we could determine where we will end up or what we will end up doing.
Maybe someone or something has mapped out our potential path already.
Maybe its "written in the stars" so to speak."

I think what you're theory over all has loads of potential "truth". It makes sense to me and fits in... I am not sure it is the whole or complete picture (and I suspect and hope I would say that with all theories - keeping open the the possibility of further growth, development and understanding and the possibility that I am partially mistaken).

Party I think that all you said in the last quote has truth and influence but maybe not complete control of the outcome, or at least one, by the info given, could not completely mathematically predict life paths/experience... I think maybe strong strong tenancies, characteristics etc I do think that maybe just a bit more could be factored in (not sure what exactly) that could bring the equation closer the perfection...

I think the parts you mention influence... just like the moon cycles influence tides, women's menstrual cycles (if they are living more naturally - less artificial light), talk to anyone working in the emergency room or loonie bin and the things happen related to moon cycles (possibly co-arising more than one controls other but thats another topic - basically all reflects all maybe)... anyway, it is a small small stretch for me to consider the plants to have influence (astrology). ok so that said, as I see it, they DO have influence but they are NOT controlling per say. The more conscious and aware an individual is the more they can choose. Freedom of choice exists to the degree that one is consciously aware (most of us, most of the time seem to think we are more consciously aware, which to me means becoming more aware of the unconscious or else you wouldn't be conscious of it, right?,

Paramhansa Yogananda (brought Kriya Yoga to the West, author of "Autobiography of a Yogi" talks about how he came to believe in the planetary influences and how when astrology predicted bad times etc he always got done what he wanted though it was harder at those times to do it... the influence didn't stop him but it did make him work harder for what he wanted to consciously create, manifest in his life etc... (amazing book by the way - very long and if anyone is interested I would suggest audio)

ok back to reading more... :)

men, women, relationships I'll start by saying I don't have this one down by any stretch LOL

Again with Jung... just like the inner can be "opposite" to the outer, partners are, same and opposite also. The "aggressiveness" in the outer woman suggests compensation for weakness inside and also of the inner "aggressiveness" of him that is hidden from the outer.

It goes back and fourth and switches, its all same or opposites, inner and outer as well as the projection and perception of each other and self etc

At least the is a brief, rough explanation from some of my limited perspective of what Jung writes about and I think holds some truth.

I think people "fall in love" and see loads of sameness as well as the opposites desired consciously or unconsciously. After the falling in love stage passes I think sometimes the differences become difficult.. Similarities and similar interests are great, yet the sameness in some of our shadows is a reflection the child ego (when acting childish - many of us much of the time lol) doesn't like. Again the differences in the outer may reflect similarities on the inner. The mature adult may be more conscious of his shadow parts and therefor more understanding, accepting and ok with the differences and the shadow side of samenesses (parts he doesn't like in self)

Partly due to projection and perception the individual will (the math equation would lead us here it seems) always find a perfect reflection in a partner of himself, be it inner and or outer reflection...

I guess what I am playing with here as in ideas is that I agree with your direction and thought process as I understand it and I think that indeed our inner workings (DNA maybe/passed down energy/soul stuff whatever) combined with influences such as planets/time etc could very strongly predict one lifes path etc... Again I think freedom of choice (is this my ego needing control) can also move us, if we can access it, on a different path... Again though, maybe those influences could predict that or maybe there is another part of the equation that could be added that would show that lol

The only way anything makes sense to me (or at least seems to to some degree in my warp and limited perspective) is when I see the paradox, which essentially says the only way anything makes sense is when nothing does (or Nothing...No Thing = Everything, again paradox - No-Thing/Evereything being what some may call God)


Thank you for sharing your thoughts... got me thinking and considering. I also think there is great truth in them...

In Kriya Yoga philosophy the Truth is that which never chances - it seems that the only constant is change, at least within the Universe... "evolution" (i'm sure we have a limited perspective of what that is) is change. The paradox is that evolution and creation are, in my perspective, the same... an "opposame" to use a David Icke term. Maybe there is a Truth outside the Universe in the realm of "God" whatever that means (and to me that is not a man or even a being and I think man, in his narcissistic state, creates a God in his! image... imagine taking away all human characteristics from "God"... I wonder if that is closer to the "truth") things are not paradoxical.

In the relative realm/earth plane/our universe all I can see (when i look deeper) is the relative polar opposites... up/down, black/white, left/right, north/south, man/women, hot/cold. It is, as I see it, the only way existence can be and it is how the Universe functions. Without relative polar opposites there would be no experience...

There is no left leg if there is no right leg for the leg would have nothing to be left of.

There is no hot without cold... more accurately there is no hotter without colder. We speak in black and white, in absolutes... we say hottub water is hot... it is hotter than water from the fridge yet much colder than the sun. The RELATIVE opposites is all there seems to be. Yin/Yang
ok so through good and evil in there ;) lol that will offend some peoples sensibilities
(Isiah 45:7 -King James version is good on this one)

I guess how this relates I think is that relative opposites must exist in order to experience

(if internally and externally everything was exactly the same temperature always, you have have no perception of temperature and essentially it wouldn't exist as there is nothing (great word lol) to compare it to to separate it to bring into any awareness). Therefor no experience being possible without relative (relative) opposites.

So a life path, influences, pre-destiny possibly would be mathematically possible and understandable from the understanding of the influences that are present, relative to their polar opposites.....?

the more light there is the more shadow it must create, a simultaneous vacuum instantaneously creates the polar opposite, more accurately co-arises maybe.

The aggressive woman, is an relative polar opposite to the timid inner woman, and attracts either the reflection of the same spectrum of aggressive/timid man. The aggressive/timid man may be more balanced in the inner or outer or maybe more aggressive on the inner and timid on the outer or timid on the outer and aggressive on the inner.

hmmm... it seems a circle yet a circle is self contained...

I wonder if the only way anything can have meaning is if nothing has meaning and if nothing has meaning the paradox is that everything has meaning.

If any of that is true then would we not always find that everything leads to ALL and No-Thing as it is all the same when you take away the relative opposites...but when you take them away you may have No-Thing left... is that a path to "enlightenment" or madness? lol Possible they are the same... Possibly the ego needs to hold onto the illusion of power, control and meaning in separateness for it must remain separate to exist... But to consider the possibility challenges the ego so strongly it is hard to swallow... yet if it holds truth then the more we reject the idea the more true it probably is - or is this just a crazy way to try to prove a thought process???? LOL

ok major tangents above probably I hope you enjoy if you read... I enjoyed writing and thinking, thank you for sharing things for me to think about and consider... got my mind going...

"A big step towards sanity is recognizing you are crazy."

then how can you trust any of your thoguhts? lol

The crazy man (maybe) believes his own thoughts and beliefs. Why is this crazy, because of course they make sense, his brain came up with them... to assume you are right is a little crazy I think LOL

So then you are left with crazy (which the relative polar opposite of is sanity) and in recognizing crazy maybe we can start to glimpse sanity... no hot without cold, so maybe no sanity without crazy, maybe no awarenes without delusion.

So if life can be seen, predicted, interpreted by the influences seen above the relative opposite must also exist (?) and that does not contradict but actually re-enforces it.

A Zen practice I heard of is to take an idea and sit with it untill you can see the truth and the falsehood in it... not purely intellectually, but also feel and connect with both sides/points of view/polarities...

I guess this is what I am trying to do which makes it hard to completely agree or disagree with anything. It is crazy yet makes sense. It is insanity yet clarity (to the degree that I do at the time)...

or maybe I am just crazy! :)

Fuck lol

again, thank you teacher