"In other words, take for example, I dunno, learning a new technique in thai boxing.
I think, the majority - I dunno, I guess - of people will gain an understanding of the technique by repetition.
In other words, they get "a feel" for it. They are unaware, to a degree, of the cause for the improvement in the technique but the subconscious or instinct has developed, through experience, "a feel" for how to do it and it has been learned in this sense.
And so the technique has been programmed in their subconscious through their experience of preforming it - their repetition."

I guess you get a "feel" from doing as the motor programs and familiarity etc takes hold.

That feel, I think, comes so much faster when teaching to "feel" wtf is going on comes over teaching 1,2 kick, or go go go

The faster and harder one goes the less aware they can be - the less they "feel" other than strain and drain and muscle pump etc... the subtle feels that give you the feel (great language choice lol) come when one feel's things like their balance when punching, their awareness of hand positioning starting, going in, returning and finishing etc, thats all "feel"

I think starting on that at the beginning makes loads of sense.

Start with teaching how to feel basic balance, positions, core function, readiness etc as they start to learn all the kicks and punches etc which I think is the icing, not the cake.

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Inability to get a feel I think is mostly lack of body awareness.

"The learning and programming takes place on a subconscious level for those being case (1)
The programs are stored subconsciously for those being case (2) but the actual learning takes place on a conscious level. "

I think there is truth in the above, I also think it is way more multifacited and complicated.

I watched some MMA last night and I feel I can see, to a degree, how tapped into themselves they are in regards to a "feel" and to instinct.
Maybe I am delusional (wasn't completely sober either, however)

Watch some fights, MMA (stand up - easier to see I think) or kickboxing and forget about who's throwing a nice punch or how hard a kick landed and watch the over all movement and ways of attacking or defending etc

Now put in your mind that you are watching animals (we are animals!!! of the mammalian flavor) and see who you think is moving more like an animal than someone who has learned some way of kicking and punching... what looks more natural - not related to the sport as we have been taught it and not through the eyes of how we normally watch (guessing how most people watch) but through the eyes of watching animals and seeing witch one seem more animalish...

that I think is tapping more into instinct....or showing of..


I've seen some pretty cool improvements from having athletes/students take a moment to pretend (in whatever way works for them) that they already know how to do something - then have them just do it... often the improvement is pretty noticeable...

possible angles in explaining this include
getting the mind out of the - never mind it can easily get in the way in a big big way but also we are so conditioned to be in the mind that it over works and we try try try instead of doing... I believe that in observation alone (everyone learns differently I know) the body has the capacity to pretty much copy and other humans movements - now that is to the degree of health and function of the body (including strength, flexibility etc) and the degree that we are in touch with our body and can essentially be one with it as opposed to try so damn hard to control it. (the mind is also the home of the ego which often focuses on whats "wrong" as opposed to what you want to do therefor having the subconscious mind receive info on exactly the thing you don't want to be focusing on)



getting more "esoteric" - ideas like - you can never learn anything only reaffirm what you already know or that you can tap into the energy or information of what you are wanting to do... - not going to get into deep explanations of example etc

simply slowing the hell down, distracting the crazy drunken monkey mind enough to get out of the way and just do what you want.

Point is the mind is many faceted, I think and we can tap into intuition and instinct.

But we don't do that by going harder all the time, it starts to come when we focus on awareness of the body, of mental processes, of emotions, of thoughts... as we become more in tune with self we are able to tap into instinct - we ARE animals!!!! The "feeling" of the heart and the rational and learning in the brain become a blend, not really knowing where one stops and one starts...

I guess kind of like Avatar...

its the biggest delusion that we think we are not animals or not a part of nature... we are, we just don't act like it...

Want to run and jump and tap into that flow... its getting back to who we are and in tune with self...

At least there are some thoughts from a very tired not completely sober dad :)