Thai is a more effective and devastating stand up art if theres any question about that for any of you then your ignorant. Any thai boxer at a decent level would easily beat someone who has spent their career as a kickboxer in Thai Boxing rules never mind FTR unless they spent a long time paying full attention to the additional parts of the art and making changes to existing technique!!! (and thats coming from a career kickboxer)

I see kickboxers on here regularly underestimate the devastating effect of Low kicks and clinch but things like catching kicks, long knees and elbows make this an impossible task without at least 12 months training and several lower level Thaiboxing fights.

It needs a massive style adaptation. As for Ronnie vs Howson - behave yourself the guys a legend and an absolute beast he'd completely overwhelm Ronnie in 2 or 3 rounds. This is not meant disrespectfully but you need to realise that what you normally do wouldnt work anymore - the distance is different, you cant shoot in with your fast boxing combo's as you would get your leg kicked off, you ribs smashed in or catch an elbow straight through the middle. The advanced knowledge an experienced fighter has of the clinch means they would be able to easily physically control you and put you where they wanted in the ring whilst they kneed the shit out of you as a few months of intensive training cant match up to years of experience in clinch. This is serious shit and FTR against a very strong, talented and experienced Thai fighter is not something anyone with little or no experience of clinch, low kicks and elbows should be entering into with extensive training and an open mind to change.