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The Phoenix
Posted: 2011-08-11 07:17:47
Police please look at this, there’s no justice just us!!!

I’d like to point out that I don’t condone the riots and looting at all, this is terrible.

We need to look at this with unbiased eyes too find the route of the problem.

It took the police ages to shoot rauol moat that had already blinded a police officer and threatened to kill the police

The crazy guy in Norway didn’t get shot, however if he was Asian or black some people would of said oh it’s the bloody Muslims or not the blacks again!!!
(Fact not all Asians are Muslims, not all Muslims are brown skinned some are black and {shock} some are white)

What annoys me is if a white person does something heinous there just 1 crazy white man, yet if a Black or Asian guy does something the whole race are labelled with the same brush

People don’t understand that there is institutionalised racism in a majority of the police force, in that borough alone several black people have been killed by the police over the years,

I’m not saying they where innocent but no one deserves to die like that (well maybe peodos rapists and murderers)

This guy was shot twice in broad daylight, there was no proper explanation to the family or a family liaison officer sent (that would of infuriated me)

Further more when the 2 police dogs where left in a car and died the officer was immediately suspended and the police statement said there is was enquiry underway

If the shooting was dealt with in a similar manner. There may not have been a protest!!!!

I see someone mentioned 7 black kids chasing a white kid; well Damolol was killed by other black kids!! What about Steven Lawrence justice was never really served to the blatant racists
Also the white wolves doing nail bombings, what happened to them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I see people saying shoot them with rubber bullets and water cannons; I think this would make things worse as if these people are in gangs of organised crime
They may shoot back with real bullets!!!!

We have to look at this as a political cultural and social issue

Social

Parents needs to able to smack there kids without being told they are affecting there human rights, (a lil smack never done me any harm) {No heroin Jokes Please}

Teachers need to be able to discipline students without getting sacked (throwing a book or weight at a child isn’t right, the dap or rule was a great deterrent at school)
This will be again claimed to affect human rights however there needs to be punishment, suspending a child is just extra holiday Boot camps an idea)

Teachers need to be more active in looking at ways to engage unruly kids there may be more issues under the surface poor home, learning difficulties or boredom
(Find a way to make that child interested, copying from the black board or if I was being politically correct the chalk board doesn’t engage you!!!!!

Schools should teach some form of martial arts boxing or wrestling, something to use this pent up aggression, I have heard people say martial arts boxing mma have saved them from a life of crime drugs n prison, this will give the kids discipline pride and most of all teach them self respect and respect for others

The police need to use there powers correctly, some do abuse the position of power, I have been victim of unnecessary routine checks because I fitted the description
It’s funny when they are looking for a black Man that’s all it states black male suspect.

If the police look for a white man there is a more definitive description white 5’8 brown hair etc, I’m 6.3 and light brown how can they stop me then a Nigerian who is very dark and on 5.9
(I here people say it, all blacks look the same, which is such a sad generalisation)

Big Business have corporate funds they are meant to inject back into the community, this doesn’t always happen.

The police seize ex amount of drugs weapons and money, where does it all go, I know the money goes to the treasury shouldn’t it be injected back into that community it came from providing youth centres
And other outlets to keep the kids off the streets.

One assumes that these rioters and looters come from broken homes; FACT a 30 year old teacher was arrested

People say its cos there poor, how do you define poor,

my definition would be no food on the table no clean water no where to sleep, poor isn’t not having a 50inch plasma x boz live and the freshest Nike trainers!!!!!!

Poor is an adjective related to a state of poverty, low quality or pity.
Poverty is the state of one who lacks a certain amount of material possessions or money.[1] Absolute poverty or destitution refers to being unable to afford basic human needs, which commonly includes clean and fresh water, nutrition, health care, education, clothing and shelter. About 1.7 billion people are estimated to live in absolute poverty today. Relative poverty refers to lacking a usual or socially acceptable level of resources or income as compared with others within a society or country.[1]
For most of history poverty had been mostly accepted as inevitable as traditional modes of production were insufficient to give an entire population a comfortable standard of living.[1][2] After the industrial revolution, mass production in factories made wealth increasingly more inexpensive and accessible. Of more importance is the modernization of agriculture, such as fertilizers, in order to provide enough yield to feed the population.[3]
The supply of basic needs can be restricted by constraints on government services such as corruption, debt and loan conditionalities and by the brain drain of health care and educational professionals. Strategies of increasing income to make basic needs more affordable typically include welfare, accommodating business regulations and providing financial services. Today, poverty reduction is a major goal and issue for many international organizations such as the United Nations and the World Bank.
People say where are the parents or parent??

1 At work trying to pay off the mortgage, car credit card food and clothes bills and a family holiday
2 looting with the kids,
3 All of the above
4 None of the above the child is in inadequate care with no loving family or guidance this child has anything so has nothing to lose!!

Political
Where do I start?

Overpaid politicians, they have had a private education but live in ivory towers and have no real idea of the real world and struggles us normal people are going through
All these cuts and tax increases that don’t actually affect them.

Expenses claims being taken to far, who needs a moat further more who needs 2 homes, id be happy with 1 home I could call my own

The filthy rich bankers – £100.000s in bonuses even though we the tax payer bailed them out, where is our bonus, wealth should be spread equally then no one will starve or need to steal,

The Hoodies – the new term coined for teenagers of all races.
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The hoodie took off in the 1970s as several factors contributed to its success. Hip hop culture developed in New York City around this time, and the hoodie's element of instant anonymity, provided by the accessible hood, appealed to those with criminal intent.[3] High fashion also contributed during this era, as Norma Kamali and other high-profile designers embraced and glamorized the new clothing.[2] Most critical to the hoodie's popularity during this time was its iconic appearance in the blockbuster Rocky film. By the 1990s, the hoodie had evolved into a symbol of isolation, a statement of academic spirit, and several fashion collections.[citation needed] The association with chavs/neds in the UK developed around this time, as their popularity rose with that specific demographic

Cultural
People are blaming the mtv base generation

Urban Music - glamorises the bling era, this is kind of true most of the rappers came from poor broken ghettos so when they make big money they want to show there success with fancy cars Gucci this Prada that Louis v etc aswell as Scantily clad models and bottles of expensive champagne (that still taste like piss water)

We live in a material world (No Madonna quotes)
Just sit and watch the adverts we are force fed lines that tell us we need the latest computer game the freshest trainers the most luxurious car expensive after shave big tellies and designer clothes coos if we don’t have that we are nothing!!!

Urban Music that promotes violence and gang mentality – I can think of several music videos that would be accused of this Eminem and lil Wayne - Drop the World,

This is just music it should not be blamed for people’s actions……

Look at your DVD collection – I guarantee there are several films that glamorize gratuitous violence and gang culture and not just the typical; adulthood or Boys in the Hood

Look at 300 the x men gangs of New York football factory green mile, these all promote gangs weather its good vs. evil or bad vs. bad, look at the big picture the police are a gang!!!!

A gang is a group of people who, through the organization, formation, and establishment of an assemblage, share a common identity.[1] In current usage it typically denotes a criminal organization or else a criminal affiliation. In early usage, the word gang referred to a group of workmen. In the United Kingdom the word is still often used in this sense, but it later underwent pejoration. The word gang often carries a negative connotation; however, within a gang which defines itself in opposition to mainstream norms, members may adopt the phrase as a statement of identity or defiance


The Media have a lot to play in this, how they cover the news,

1st footage I saw was shot in central London, an area with a high black population…..

For some crap reason race always comes into the equation no matter how much we try and dodge it. People are people no matter what colour or creed

I have seen people say they need to go back to there own country that’s so laughable seen as if you look at history blacks and Indians where bought over here as slaves,

Then in the 1970 the English used a Ship they took from the Germans called it Wind rush and then went around the west Indies and India saying come to England the land of free and opportunity
(Do the jobs the white man is to proud to do cleaners bus drivers, my mum told me this and my mums white)

Some of these people are 2nd 3rd for 4th generation Indians, Jamaicans Africans they are still British weather some people like it or not.

We are desensitised to violence and crime as we see it as the norm – the media music TV film computer games and bad parenting (go to your room play computer watch TV just get away from me) have all helped in this

A child between age of 8 -13 has played grand theft auto or, call of duty watched some violent film like iron man predators and several war films listened to a violent song Eminem 50 cent plan b,

We as a people need to do what we can in our communities to have any cause and affect,

Some people say not my problem,

Ignorance is bliss till it kicks in your front door

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