hawkman, you might only be seeing what you're looking for? or what the media wants you to see??

all i've heard is kick em back to afghanistan and things like this, i was unsure if it was minorities that were causing the trouble, i saw a small clip and it was mostly black and asian kids, then i made a point of looking at the footage and it was clear that 50% of the kids were white

i touched on the police failings earlier and i still stand by my point of view, why are we suprised that criminals are acting like crimnals?

for as long as we've been recording history we've been aware of criminals and how they act, that's why we have the police, thats why we ok all their budgets, yet we keep accepting poor policing and high levels of crime, we don't blame the police(the people we employ to fix this issue) we blame the criminals, it's a farce, if you hired a pluimber that couldn't fix a leax or install a bathroom you'd tell them to gtf and you could use the same principal for any profession yet here we are making excuses for the police's lack of police action

the police would sit in their car with the windows wound up and doors locked watching while any single person in this thread was having their brains kicked in, the police wouldn't intervene, they'd watch and say it was too dangerous for them to do anything...there was police docu on the other day and trouble started in a traveller site(notorious violence) the police officers ended up in a scuffle, you know what? the police were there mob handed in less than a minute...that wasn't too dangerous for them to intervene and it's that mentality that carries through into the streets and it seems it's being accepted by society..that the life of a police officer is worth more than the life of the public...the police choose a "dangerous" *cough profession and it's a hazard of their job

a gang of 7 police men attacked a single child on a pedal bike, the kid was whacked to the floor with battons and then kicked when on the floor, the police were dressed in riot gear, i've not seen too many kids riding around on bikes in riots, or looting on bikes...now flip that and please show me these brave poilcemen tackling 7 criminals at once, they are the same weak menatlity as the gangs, they're just more organised and are legalised

there was footage of a raid on a teenagers home this morning, it looked like 20 police for a single offender, is this the brave police we have? no wonder criminals are taking the michael and the nikes and the dvd players

a 17 year old girl handed herself into police(remorse?) she had stolen a £300 tv, she was remanded in custody until she is seen by the crown court however a 19 year old daughter of a millionaire was caught in the act and was stopped with £5,500 of stolen goods in her car, she has been bailed to her own house..no remand in custody for the millionaires kids eh?

this is the type of government failings and poor police work and double standards that spark this violence, we have injustices that are ignored and are easily blamed on smalll pockets of society

i'm disgusted by the beahviour of these criminals but i'm equally disgusted by the lack of police work by the police, we pay them to protect us and uphold the law

we should condem the benefit cheats, but we should also go after the tax dodgers, they are no differnet and are stealing from the country, so if you pay taxes on ALL your earnings which is approx 40% over £30k and you're not looking to swindle and cheat the system by paying an accountant to advise you to pay cash to a retired relative to avoid tax at 40% or going the dividends route to avoid tax etc etc then you're no different than the expense fiddling mps and the benefit cheats...people obviously spinning the tax issue and they are no differnet from benefit cheats, infact i'd say they are worse as 9/10 they would be doing so for greed rather than desperation