Seems to have becom a Master Sken thread now. Don't know him other than what I have read and watching some UTube clips. From the way he moves about on the clips I automatically thought that there was a good deal of TKD in his background. Bit surprised it showed through so much but hell if thats who he is then thats who he is. His record as an instructor and promoter of the art of Muay Thai speaks for its self. It is all too easy to sit in front of our lap tops in 2012 and comment like some experts on the early pioneers of Muay Thai and other sports/arts. He and the likes Master Toddy, Ajarn Chai, Larry Hartsell, Dan Inosanto, etc were introducing their arts and sports to countries and people who basically only knew and related to; TKD, Kung Fu, Karate, or wrestling and boxing. I believe that sometimes they had to adapt what they did to meet their customer needs. Maybe some people may have made a slightly exaggerated claim about their background/fight record/? as part of marketing themselves never expecting 30 years later to be so well known that their pedigree is debated but keyboard experts. People could never of imagined where life would take them. And we as students have a habit of building up the stories of our instructors to grow larger than life and some of these become urban/internet myths. Back in the day there were no pc's, internet, camcorders, UTube etc. Just a few mags and less books. I remember if you got hold of a VHS video of an instructor or a fight it was like gold and to be only swapped with a few trusted training mates. Now anyone can get on UTube and within seconds have hundreds of clips to trawl through and soon become experts. I beleive all Coaches/Instructors who are of some years standing will admit that they now teach differntly than 10,15 or 20 years ago. Infact, if they haven't changed anything I would be suspicious of them, their skills and what they are teaching. We all came from somewhere else. There are now a hugh number of gyms with Chineese or Japaneese names teaching Muay Thai & MMA. Some are bandwagon jumpers and others serious Instructors or clubs who have; growen, learnt, adapted and changed to meet a new customer need. For some people it is easier to try and cut down others then it is to grow themselves to be able to stand up at their level of greatness.