Sadly, a lot of people shoot poorly, not just in San Shou but in MMA also, you can not simply bend at the waist the charge forward, if you don't get kneed, you will get your head pushed down and go no where. A good shoot is more like a squat, bend the knees, keep the shin bone under the chest and head up, this way for example you could still hope to block a knee. Timing is a HUGE factor, you clinch and shoot too soon and BANG you get kneed or hit or kicked, or thrown down, all bad stuff :) In San Da, we let you throw ONE knee then shoot as the leg is going back, ie when you are least prepared to counter the shoot, my gym does this anyway, I've seen teh Chinese try and shoot horribly a few times in the Muay Thai vs San Da matches so far... Also they keep switching coaches which is pretty stupid, no consistency