Thongasai,

All i can say is AMEN brother!!!! The Chinese San Shou has been tested under its rules but under no other yet the Chinese now claim some form of superiority. Crap. IKFMDC keeps missing the point. We are not arguing that San Shou is not good and not enjoyable PRACTICED AT ITS ELITE LEVELS BUT THE CHINESE PRACTIONERS ARE FOUND SEVERELY AND I MEAN SEVERLY LACKING IN MANY SKILLS AND ARE NOT ADAPTIVE TO DIFFERRING RULES. Many Thai fighters have competed in all the events listed above - sure there have been mixed results and some events have made us shake our heads but they have tested themselves. San Shou champions - FIGHT IN LUMPINEE WITH LUMPINEE CHAMPIONS.


IKFMDC himself has admitted that the Chinese are not a good example to hold forth for San Shou but how does this happen? How does the originating country come to be one of the also rans compared to say the Russians, Uzbekistanians in the Draka series which are supposedly (i have not seen enough to pass judgement myself) superior to the Chinese circuit? Such a thing would be a disaster in any other sport - could you imagine Australia the NFL champions? What is the difference attributable to? Many are leaning towards these practioners in other countries bringing learned "outside" techniques, skills or training routines into their San Shou practice and strengthing what is not a style but rather turns out to be a set of competitive rules much the same as the US spawned the UFC and eventual competition coupled with experience and the human desire to win by seeking every advantage spawned this new "old" arena - that of Mixed Martial Arts.


BTW IKFMDC Re downward elbow - i did not say the recepient was on the canvas but rather was following on from your point of poor shoots, ie bent over virtually horizontal at the waist, tongue hanging out and grabbing feebly at the leg as the Chinese seem wont to do beyond the second round. And guess what - in Lumpinee such candy ass shoots would be punished. But i guess the Chinese know that and thats why they insist on wearing these bandages that supposedly dont do anything? Dont do anything - they why did the Chinese insist on fighting with them? And in MMA - know i now why they banned the downward elbow, its to save San Shou fighters lives.