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Monkey-I don't believe they should be. I believed they are changed(for the most part because of lack of knowlage).
If I agree to fight under any rules then I will not complain about winning or losing because of the rules. i haven't seen that major rule changes on paper of the associations yet I see many different calls by the refs. i don't believe these are the rules most of the time. I believe most of the time the refs don't know the rules and or think they do and or mix them with kickboxing or boxing rules.
I'm sure some associations change some but much of the time I think its uneducated officials.
So no, I don't think that agreeing to fight MuayThai and then having refs make up what they want is fair.
If the ref gets hurt and can no longer continue then the head judge issuppose to take his place...he will still 'score'.
Can you give me one instance that a ref has given a point for a throw in a MuayThai contest??? You used that to prove knowing scores didn't you?
You said you'd seen it twice and then you said you seen it several times.
Mark-"How do you know if the throw scores in the ring or not? How many judges have told you they score it?"
Monkey-"I have seen refs actually point to the fighter following the throw and indicate the point in 2 different cases."
Mark-"could you name one where you have gone and the ref indicates points?"
Monkey-"Yeah I have seen it happen several times. Which particular times would you like me to cite?" (ok thats kinda of a silly thing to say as I haven't seen them nor do I know what you've seen)
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So..?