Quality of Muay Thai Referees.

I know people come on here and have a moan when reffing is poor but like we praised Ryan Rudkin on his high standard of officiation i would like to mention that Shaun Boland was top draw on my show and didnt make 1 minor error, very thorough and highly recommended.

Ryan is A1 and Tom Ashe is another i would highly reccomend.
Tony Myers goes without saying.

Craig Neild also very good ref.

what about the guy who reffed julie v angie last week? lol

bloody yank!

they should stick to softball nath ;-)

Liam R - you don't fancy softball, mate? c'mon over so i can load you up on nachos and coca-colas. LOL.

OT: any american referees you'd consider quality?

in all fairness,the ref did apologise to us and said that he was told to break the clinch even though he didnt agree.just very relieved that it worked out ok in the end.

sounds dodgy!!

Kru Boland was indeed a top ref sunday nite Liam.

Recently did a brief ref course with Ryan Rudkin in preparation for out Suffolk Punch Up Interclub event -learnt a hell of a lot and now have a lot more respect for the referees role. Do it badly and you'll not only put the fighters in danger, but you can spoil the show for the spectators.

Greatest respect to you refs!

Well done on your performance Shaun.

Ryan is also an excellent referee so I am sure gave you really great advice Don.

Sawatdee Khrup!

Many thanks for your kind words gentlemen. It is and always will be a learning curve, one which I hope to continue with.


SHAUN

Awesome to hear some positives in this area.

I have never felt unsafe when fighting and Tony Myers has been the ref,sometimes i have felt(especially when i was finishing an opponent) that i had to "look out for thr ref" also as i didnt really trust his judgement...something you dont want during a fight.

All in all there are some good ones around,more training and certificated judges and refs would be great.

I was asked to ref a few fights a while back....hard work,especially knowing when to give a count or stop a fight,pretty scarey stuff and hard to keep un emotional about it.

John Blackledge has to be mentioned here a pioneer in british professional refing!

took this off one of the forums---

Julie Kitchen vs Angela Rivera-Parr
Fantastic fight. If you ever want to dispel the stupid idea that women cant last in 3-minute or 5-round fights - show them this bout. These two womwn kept the action going at a faster pace than what most of the men did, on the night. I thought Julie kept up a wicked work rate, constantly applied the pressure & threw a bucket-load of strikes…........... BUT ............ she landed virtually nothing she threw for the whole fight & couldn’t score in the clinch for bananas. Angie seemed content to counter all night long, use the teep and block & hold in the clinch. I honestly thought that Angie out-pointed Julie reasonably easily for the decision win - but the judges obviously deemed that jumping in to the clinch and then doing nothing was a big points-scorer ?????

whats the point of educating referees and judges if people still dont understand the concept of muaythai.?

darren phillips GFC quality referee and really knows his stuff

yep
and agree with the comments above and Darrens refd 3 my shows great and
Nathan what was the Result?
win?
i still dont know ?
cheers

Yes, Darren is also an excellent referee and really does understand the sport.

We are currently attempting to formalise referee training and offer formal assessments. Hopefully this will lead to a larger body of referees who have the appropriate skills and knowledge to allow boxers to perform both optimally as well as safely as possible.

Skills assessed will include:
Full understanding of the rules;
consultation with medical staff, judges, and timekeeper;
checking the boxers before the fight;
position in before the fight and during the Wai Kru and round breaks;
quality of rules overview in changing rooms and /or in the centre of the ring; checking officials are in place before the bout commences; starting the bout; positioning and footwork during the bout;
correctly breaking the fighters in the middle of the ring, on the ropes and in the corners;
the timing of breaking the fighters;
maintaining the flow of the bout by making quick decisions and actions; identifying fouls and taking appropriate action including cautions, warnings and using appropriate signals;
saving the boxers when thrown to the canvas;
counting protocol of a standing fighter, a fighter who is down, a fighter who is injured, thrown through the ropes;
intervening to count a boxer at an appropriate time;
dealing with cuts and other injuries appropriately;
collecting score cards, signalling the winner of the bout.


Sandy Julie won.

Nathan, Julie won clearly and scored well. The referee did break the clinch inappropriately but Julie still scored well in the clinch. Miss America seemed to grasp the fact that Julie won before the decision was announced and seemed to understand who was ahead better than the 'expert' commentators.

We do need to educate the public but I really think inconsistent commentary really confuses the public. To be honest if I were to take my information about scoring from commentators on various DVDs, internet broadcasts and TV, I would be as confused as hell about the sport.

K4C we are talking about muay thai back on topic please

Sawatdee Khrup!

I have written an article on Refereeing titled 'The man in the middle' it should be out in 'Fighters' at the end of this month


SHAUN