Topic:Milk, It Does A Body Good?
More Reasons Why You Don’t Want to Drink Pasteurized Milk
"Pasteurization was also found to affect the hematogenic and growth-promoting properties of the special milk (raw milk from specially fed cows, whose milk did not produce nutritional anemia--whereas commercially pasteurized milk did) ..."
-Krauss, W. E., Erb, J.H. and Washburn, R. G., Studies on the nutritive value of milk II. The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 11, January, 1933.
"Resistance to tuberculosis increased in children fed raw milk instead of pasteurized, to the point that in five years only one case of pulmonary TB had developed, whereas in the previous five years, when children had been given pasteurized milk, 14 cases of pulmonary TB had developed."
-The Lancet, page 1142, May 8, 1937
"Human or cow milk added to an equal volume of agar did not support the growth or allowed only slight growth of B. diphtheriae Staph. aureus, B. coli, B. prodigiosus, B. pyocyaneus, B. anthracis, streptococci, and unidentified wild yeast. The factors in human milk inhibiting bacterial growth (‘inhibins’) were inactivated by heating at 56 degrees C. (pasteurization temperatures of 60 to 70 degrees C.) for 30 minutes or by standing 12 to 24 days at 5 degrees C., but not by repeated freezing and thawing. The ‘inhibins’ in cow’s milk were not inactivated by heating at 80 degrees C. for seven minutes but were destroyed by heating at 85 degrees C. for seven minutes. Attempts have not been made to identify the natural antiseptics."
-Dold, H., Wizaman, E., and Kleiner, C., Z. Hyt. Inf., "Antiseptic in milk," The Drug and Cosmetic Industry, 43,1:109, July, 1938.
"Milk, an animal product, is the essential food of all infant mammals. Mammals are so classified in the scale of living things because of the common characteristic of the female nursing her young. The infant mammal is accordingly carnivorous in his natural habits irrespective of whether the adult of the species is herbivorous or carnivorous.
If the adults on a carnivorous diet show conditions of deficiency on cooked meat, is it not reasonable to suppose that growing infants on entirely cooked carnivorous diets will do likewise? Many experimenters, such as Catel, Dutcher, Wilson, and others, have shown such to be the case in animals fed on pasteurized milk ...
Can human infants be born of mothers who are deficient, and yet attain a fair degree of skeletal development if given a proper raw milk supply? The three infants in figure 4 were born of mothers known to by hypothyroid. Prior to the birth of the infants shown, all three mothers had given birth to children within three years. Each of the previous children was asthmatic, showed infantile rickets, and possessed poor skeletal development.
The first child shown in Figure 4 was breastfed from birth, with the mother living under excellent health-promoting conditions. The second child was on powdered milk for four weeks, and on raw certified milk after that without cod-liver oil or orange juice. Both the first and second child began supplemental feedings when they were about five months old and were very healthy babies. The third baby was always sickly and had been on formulae since birth.
These formulae included powdered milk, pasteurized milk, boiled milk, boiled certified milk and canned milk. She had suffered from severe gastric distress during her entire infancy and when eight months old she developed asthma. She is very small though her parents are of larger build than the parents of the other two children.
The strictest bacteriologic standards for milk must always be maintained. The feeding of cattle should receive greater attention. It should be determined experimentally, if possible, whether health and resistance are undermined by pasteurization. If so, in our attempt to protect the child from milk-borne infections, we may be denying his heritage of good health by removing from his milk vitamins, hormones, and enzymes that control mineral assimilation and promote body development and general resistance to disease. Is it also possible that these same elements are as important to the adult invalid who needs milk as to the infant?
Let us have closer cooperation between raw-milk producers and public-health officials so that the growth-producing factors of raw milk can be studied. We cannot afford to pasteurize milk if it is found that pasteurization diminishes the potency of the growth-promoting factors that determine the skeletal development of our children. We cannot afford to lessen the resistance of our children to respiratory infection, asthma, bronchitis and the common cold when factors preventing them are present in greater amounts in properly clean raw milk than in pasteurized milk."
-Pottenger, F. M. Jr., "Clinical and experimental evidence of growth factors in raw milk," Certified Milk, January, 1937.
"Some have questioned whether pasteurized milk is really involved in the production of scurvy. The fact, however, that when one gives a group of infants this food for a period of about six months, instances of scurvy occur, and that a cure is brought about when raw milk is substituted, taken in conjunction with the fact that if we feed the same number of infants on raw milk, cases of scurvy will not develop--these results seem sufficient to warrant the deduction that pasteurized milk is a causative factor.
The experience in Berlin, noted by Newmann (Newmann, H., Deutsch. Klin., 7:341, 1904) and others, is most illuminating and convincing in this connection. In 1901 a large dairy in that city established a pasteurizing plant in which all milk was raised to a temperature of about 60 degrees C. After an interval of some months, infantile scurvy was reported from various sources throughout the city. Neumann writes about the situation as follows:
‘Whereas Heubner, Cassel and myself had seen only 32 cases of scurvy from 1896 to 1900, the number of cases suddenly rose from the year 1901, so that the same observers--not to mention a great many others--treated 83cases in 1901 and 1902.’
An investigation was made as to the cause, and the pasteurization was discontinued. The result was that the number of cases decreased just as suddenly as they had increased ..."
-Hess, A. F., "Infantile Scurvy, V. A study of its pathogenesis," Am. J Dis. Child., November, 1917.
"Although pasteurized milk is to be recommended on account of the security which it affords against infection, we should realize that it is an incomplete food. Unless an antiscorbutic, such as orange juice, ... or potato water is added, infants will develop scurvy on this diet. This form of scurvy takes some months to develop and may be termed subacute. It must be considered not only the most common form of this disorder, but the one which passes most often unrecognized. In order to guard against it, infants fed exclusively on a diet of pasteurized milk should be given antiscorbutics far earlier than is at present the custom, even as early as at the end of the first month of life."
-Hess, A. F., "Infantile Scurvy. III. Its influence on growth (length and weight)," Am. J. Dis. Child., August, 1916.
"One of the most striking clinical phenomenon of infantile scurvy is the marked susceptibility to infection which it entails--the frequent attacks of ‘grippe,’ the widespread occurrence of nasal diphtheria, the furunculosis of the skin, the danger of pneumonia in advanced cases ..."
-Hess, A. F., "Infantile Scurvy. V. A study of its pathogenesis," Am. J. Dis. Child., November, 1917.
"... Recently, Minot and his colleagues came to the conclusion that adult scurvy can be precipitated by infectious processes; in other words, that latent scurvy can by this means be changed to manifest scurvy. In general, therefore, investigations in the laboratory as well as clinical observations are in agreement in stressing the interrelationship of scurvy and bacterial infection."
-Hess, A. F., "Recent advances in knowledge of scurvy and the antiscorbutic vitamin," J.A.M.A., April 23, 1932.
This illustrates the futility of pasteurization of milk to prevent infection from diseases the cows may sometimes have, such as undulant fever. The infant is then made subject to the common infectious diseases, and deaths from these common diseases are not attributed, as they should be, to the defective nature of the milk.
Effects of Pasteurization of Milk on Tooth Health
The Lancet, page 1142, May 8, 1937 says that in children the teeth are less likely to decay on diet supplemented with raw milk than with pasteurized milk.
"Dr. Evelyn Sprawson of the London Hospital has recently stated that in certain institutions children who were brought up on raw milk (as opposed to pasteurized milk) had perfect teeth and no decay. Whether this was due actually to the milk being unheated, or possibly to some other, quite different and so far unrecognized cause, we cannot yet say; but we may be sure of one thing, that the result is so striking and unusual that it will undoubtedly be made the subject of further inquiry."
-Harris, L.J., Vitamins in Theory and Practice, page 224, Cambridge, University Press, 1935.
Effect of Pasteurization of Milk on Growth
... Fisher and Bartlett "point out by statistical treatment that the response in height to raw milk was significantly greater than that to pasteurized milk. Their interpretation of the data led to the assertion that the pasteurized milk was only 66 percent effective as the raw milk in the case of boys and 91.1 percent as effective in the case of girls in inducing increases in weight, and 50.0 percent as effective in boys and 70.0 percent in girls in bringing about height increases."
-Krauss, W. E., Erb, J. H. and Washburn, R.G., "Studies on the nutritive value of milk, II." "The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 8, January 1933.
"... Daniels and Loughlin observed that young rats fed long heat-treated milks, evaporated, condensed, and pasteurized by the ‘hold’ method failed to grow normally, but if the precipitated calcium salts were incorporated into the various milk, growth was normal ..."
-Daniels, A.L., and Loughlin, R., Journal of Biological Chemistry, 44.381, 1920, as abstracted by Holmes and Pigott, "Factors that influence the anti-rachitic value of milk in infant feeding," Oil & Soap, 12.9:202-207, September, 1935.
Calcium Availability in Pasteurized Milk
"Kramer, Latzke and Shaw (Kramer, Martha M., Latzke, F., and Shaw, M.M., A Comparison of Raw, Pasteurized, Evaporated and Dried Milks as Sources of Calcium and Phosphorus for the Human Subject, Journal of Biological Chemistry, 79:283-295, 1928) obtained less favorable calcium balances in adults with pasteurized milk than with ‘fresh milk’ and made the further observation that milk from cows kept in the barn for five months gave less favorable calcium balances than did ‘fresh milk’ (herd milk from a college dairy)."
-Krauss, W. E., Erb, J.H., and Washburn, R.G., "Studies on the nutritive value of milk, II. The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 8, January, 1933.
"Guinea pigs fed raw milk with an addition of skim milk powder, copper and iron salts, carotene, and orange juice grew well and showed no abnormalities at autopsy. When pasteurized whole milk was used, deficiency symptoms began to appear, wrist stiffness being the first sign. The substitution of skim milk for whole milk intensified the deficiency, which was characterized by great emaciation and weakness before death ... At autopsy the muscles were found to be extremely atrophied, and closely packed, fine lines of calcification ran parallel to the fibers. Also calcification occurred in other parts of the body. When cod liver oil replaced carotene in the diet, paralysis developed quickly. The feeding of raw cream cured the wrist stiffness."
-Annual Review of Biochemistry, Vol. 18, Page 435. (1944).
In The Lancet, page 1142, May 8, 1937 it is shown that chilblains are practically eliminated (result of higher calcium values of raw milk or improved assimilation of calcium) when raw milk rather than pasteurized milk is used in the diet of children.
Pasteurization Destroys Vitamin A
"... According to S. Schmidt-Nielsen and Schmidt-Nielson (Kgl. Norske Videnskab. Selsk. Forhandl., 1:126-128, abstracted in Biological Abstracts, 4:94, 1930), when milk pasteurized at 63 degrees C. (145 degrees F.) was fed to mature rats, early death or diminished vitality resulted in the offspring. This was attributed to the destruction of vitamin A."
-Krauss, W.E., Erb, J.H. and Washburn, R.G. Studies on the nutritive value of milk, II. The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 9, January, 1933.
Pasteurization Destroys Vitamin B Complex
"Pasteurization of milk destroys about 38 percent of the B complex according to Dutcher and his associates ..."
-Lewis, L.R., The relation of the vitamins to obstetrics, American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 29.5:759. May, 1935.
"Mattick and Golding’s "Relative value of Raw and Heated Milk in Nutrition, in The Lancet (220:662-667), reported some preliminary experiments which indicated that pasteurization destroys some of the dietetic value of milk, including partial destruction of Vitamin B1. These same workers found the raw milk to be considerably superior to sterilized milk in nutritive value."
-Krauss, W. E., Erb, J. H. and Washburn, R.G., Studies on the nutritive value of milk, II. The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 7, January, 1933.
"... On the 7.5 cc. level two rats on raw milk developed mild polyneuritis toward the end of the trial; whereas three rats on pasteurized milk developed polyneuritis early, which became severe as the trial drew to a close. On the 10.0 cc. level none of the rats on raw milk developed polyneuritis, but three on pasteurized milk were severely afflicted."
-Ibid, page 23.
"Using standard methods for determining vitamins A, B, G and D, it was found that pasteurization destroyed at least 25 percent of the vitamin B in the original raw milk."
-Ibid, page 30.
Pasteurization Destroys Vitamin C
"... The pasteurization of milk has been found to destroy 20 percent to 50 percent [of the vitamin C] the first month of life. The reasonable procedure, therefore, appears to be to use pasteurized milk to insure protection against disease germs of various kinds and to supply the vitamin deficiency through other foods. The success in infant feeding based on this principle is evinced especially in the amazing reduction in infant mortality in the summer months."
-Jordan, E.O.,A Textbook of General Bacteriology, Twelfth Edition, Revised, page 691, W. B. Saunders Co., 1938.
"Within the past few years an increasing number of patients affected with scurvy have been brought to the Oregon Children’s Hospital. As the prophylactic amount of vitamin C (15 mg. daily) is contained in 300 cc. of breast milk, scurvy is rarely found in breastfed babies. The vitamin C of cow’s milk is largely destroyed by pasteurization or evaporation."
-Overstreet, R.M., Northwest Medicine, June, 1938, as abstracted by Clinical Medicine and Surgery, "The Increase of Scurvy," 42, 12:598, December, 1938.
"Samples of raw, certified , certified Guernsey and certified vitamin D milks were collected at the different dairies throughout the city of Madison. These milks on the average are only a little below the fresh milks as recorded in Table I, indicating that commercial raw and certified milks as delivered to the consumer lose only a small amount of their antiscorbutic potency. Likewise, samples of commercial pasteurized milks were collected and analyzed. On an average they contained only about one-half as much ascorbic acid as fresh raw milks and significantly less ascorbic acid than the commercial unpasteurized milks.
It was found that commercial raw milks contained an antiscorbutic potency that was only slightly less than fresh raw milks and that pasteurized milks on the average contained only one-half the latter potency. Mineral modification and homogenization apparently have a destructive effect on ascorbic acid."
-Woessner, Warren W., Evehjem, C.A., and Schuette, Henry A., "The determination of ascorbic acid in commercial milks," Journal of Nutrition, 18,6:619-626, December, 1939.
Reprint No. 7
Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Publication Date: 12/11/39
RealMilk.com
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Dr. Mercola's Comment
So don’t waste your money on "organic" milk anymore. This is a waste of your resources. Redirect your energy to find real raw milk sources.
Ideally, you can find a local farmer who will be willing to sell that to you. If you find one you will want to encourage him to consider restricting grains from the cows’ feed to improve the quality of the milk.
Check out this link to find out what states, according to the surveys they cite, permit (and prohibit) the sale of raw milk:
www.magma.ca/~ca/rawmilk/sale.htm
"Pasteurization was also found to affect the hematogenic and growth-promoting properties of the special milk (raw milk from specially fed cows, whose milk did not produce nutritional anemia--whereas commercially pasteurized milk did) ..."
-Krauss, W. E., Erb, J.H. and Washburn, R. G., Studies on the nutritive value of milk II. The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 11, January, 1933.
"Resistance to tuberculosis increased in children fed raw milk instead of pasteurized, to the point that in five years only one case of pulmonary TB had developed, whereas in the previous five years, when children had been given pasteurized milk, 14 cases of pulmonary TB had developed."
-The Lancet, page 1142, May 8, 1937
"Human or cow milk added to an equal volume of agar did not support the growth or allowed only slight growth of B. diphtheriae Staph. aureus, B. coli, B. prodigiosus, B. pyocyaneus, B. anthracis, streptococci, and unidentified wild yeast. The factors in human milk inhibiting bacterial growth (‘inhibins’) were inactivated by heating at 56 degrees C. (pasteurization temperatures of 60 to 70 degrees C.) for 30 minutes or by standing 12 to 24 days at 5 degrees C., but not by repeated freezing and thawing. The ‘inhibins’ in cow’s milk were not inactivated by heating at 80 degrees C. for seven minutes but were destroyed by heating at 85 degrees C. for seven minutes. Attempts have not been made to identify the natural antiseptics."
-Dold, H., Wizaman, E., and Kleiner, C., Z. Hyt. Inf., "Antiseptic in milk," The Drug and Cosmetic Industry, 43,1:109, July, 1938.
"Milk, an animal product, is the essential food of all infant mammals. Mammals are so classified in the scale of living things because of the common characteristic of the female nursing her young. The infant mammal is accordingly carnivorous in his natural habits irrespective of whether the adult of the species is herbivorous or carnivorous.
If the adults on a carnivorous diet show conditions of deficiency on cooked meat, is it not reasonable to suppose that growing infants on entirely cooked carnivorous diets will do likewise? Many experimenters, such as Catel, Dutcher, Wilson, and others, have shown such to be the case in animals fed on pasteurized milk ...
Can human infants be born of mothers who are deficient, and yet attain a fair degree of skeletal development if given a proper raw milk supply? The three infants in figure 4 were born of mothers known to by hypothyroid. Prior to the birth of the infants shown, all three mothers had given birth to children within three years. Each of the previous children was asthmatic, showed infantile rickets, and possessed poor skeletal development.
The first child shown in Figure 4 was breastfed from birth, with the mother living under excellent health-promoting conditions. The second child was on powdered milk for four weeks, and on raw certified milk after that without cod-liver oil or orange juice. Both the first and second child began supplemental feedings when they were about five months old and were very healthy babies. The third baby was always sickly and had been on formulae since birth.
These formulae included powdered milk, pasteurized milk, boiled milk, boiled certified milk and canned milk. She had suffered from severe gastric distress during her entire infancy and when eight months old she developed asthma. She is very small though her parents are of larger build than the parents of the other two children.
The strictest bacteriologic standards for milk must always be maintained. The feeding of cattle should receive greater attention. It should be determined experimentally, if possible, whether health and resistance are undermined by pasteurization. If so, in our attempt to protect the child from milk-borne infections, we may be denying his heritage of good health by removing from his milk vitamins, hormones, and enzymes that control mineral assimilation and promote body development and general resistance to disease. Is it also possible that these same elements are as important to the adult invalid who needs milk as to the infant?
Let us have closer cooperation between raw-milk producers and public-health officials so that the growth-producing factors of raw milk can be studied. We cannot afford to pasteurize milk if it is found that pasteurization diminishes the potency of the growth-promoting factors that determine the skeletal development of our children. We cannot afford to lessen the resistance of our children to respiratory infection, asthma, bronchitis and the common cold when factors preventing them are present in greater amounts in properly clean raw milk than in pasteurized milk."
-Pottenger, F. M. Jr., "Clinical and experimental evidence of growth factors in raw milk," Certified Milk, January, 1937.
"Some have questioned whether pasteurized milk is really involved in the production of scurvy. The fact, however, that when one gives a group of infants this food for a period of about six months, instances of scurvy occur, and that a cure is brought about when raw milk is substituted, taken in conjunction with the fact that if we feed the same number of infants on raw milk, cases of scurvy will not develop--these results seem sufficient to warrant the deduction that pasteurized milk is a causative factor.
The experience in Berlin, noted by Newmann (Newmann, H., Deutsch. Klin., 7:341, 1904) and others, is most illuminating and convincing in this connection. In 1901 a large dairy in that city established a pasteurizing plant in which all milk was raised to a temperature of about 60 degrees C. After an interval of some months, infantile scurvy was reported from various sources throughout the city. Neumann writes about the situation as follows:
‘Whereas Heubner, Cassel and myself had seen only 32 cases of scurvy from 1896 to 1900, the number of cases suddenly rose from the year 1901, so that the same observers--not to mention a great many others--treated 83cases in 1901 and 1902.’
An investigation was made as to the cause, and the pasteurization was discontinued. The result was that the number of cases decreased just as suddenly as they had increased ..."
-Hess, A. F., "Infantile Scurvy, V. A study of its pathogenesis," Am. J Dis. Child., November, 1917.
"Although pasteurized milk is to be recommended on account of the security which it affords against infection, we should realize that it is an incomplete food. Unless an antiscorbutic, such as orange juice, ... or potato water is added, infants will develop scurvy on this diet. This form of scurvy takes some months to develop and may be termed subacute. It must be considered not only the most common form of this disorder, but the one which passes most often unrecognized. In order to guard against it, infants fed exclusively on a diet of pasteurized milk should be given antiscorbutics far earlier than is at present the custom, even as early as at the end of the first month of life."
-Hess, A. F., "Infantile Scurvy. III. Its influence on growth (length and weight)," Am. J. Dis. Child., August, 1916.
"One of the most striking clinical phenomenon of infantile scurvy is the marked susceptibility to infection which it entails--the frequent attacks of ‘grippe,’ the widespread occurrence of nasal diphtheria, the furunculosis of the skin, the danger of pneumonia in advanced cases ..."
-Hess, A. F., "Infantile Scurvy. V. A study of its pathogenesis," Am. J. Dis. Child., November, 1917.
"... Recently, Minot and his colleagues came to the conclusion that adult scurvy can be precipitated by infectious processes; in other words, that latent scurvy can by this means be changed to manifest scurvy. In general, therefore, investigations in the laboratory as well as clinical observations are in agreement in stressing the interrelationship of scurvy and bacterial infection."
-Hess, A. F., "Recent advances in knowledge of scurvy and the antiscorbutic vitamin," J.A.M.A., April 23, 1932.
This illustrates the futility of pasteurization of milk to prevent infection from diseases the cows may sometimes have, such as undulant fever. The infant is then made subject to the common infectious diseases, and deaths from these common diseases are not attributed, as they should be, to the defective nature of the milk.
Effects of Pasteurization of Milk on Tooth Health
The Lancet, page 1142, May 8, 1937 says that in children the teeth are less likely to decay on diet supplemented with raw milk than with pasteurized milk.
"Dr. Evelyn Sprawson of the London Hospital has recently stated that in certain institutions children who were brought up on raw milk (as opposed to pasteurized milk) had perfect teeth and no decay. Whether this was due actually to the milk being unheated, or possibly to some other, quite different and so far unrecognized cause, we cannot yet say; but we may be sure of one thing, that the result is so striking and unusual that it will undoubtedly be made the subject of further inquiry."
-Harris, L.J., Vitamins in Theory and Practice, page 224, Cambridge, University Press, 1935.
Effect of Pasteurization of Milk on Growth
... Fisher and Bartlett "point out by statistical treatment that the response in height to raw milk was significantly greater than that to pasteurized milk. Their interpretation of the data led to the assertion that the pasteurized milk was only 66 percent effective as the raw milk in the case of boys and 91.1 percent as effective in the case of girls in inducing increases in weight, and 50.0 percent as effective in boys and 70.0 percent in girls in bringing about height increases."
-Krauss, W. E., Erb, J. H. and Washburn, R.G., "Studies on the nutritive value of milk, II." "The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 8, January 1933.
"... Daniels and Loughlin observed that young rats fed long heat-treated milks, evaporated, condensed, and pasteurized by the ‘hold’ method failed to grow normally, but if the precipitated calcium salts were incorporated into the various milk, growth was normal ..."
-Daniels, A.L., and Loughlin, R., Journal of Biological Chemistry, 44.381, 1920, as abstracted by Holmes and Pigott, "Factors that influence the anti-rachitic value of milk in infant feeding," Oil & Soap, 12.9:202-207, September, 1935.
Calcium Availability in Pasteurized Milk
"Kramer, Latzke and Shaw (Kramer, Martha M., Latzke, F., and Shaw, M.M., A Comparison of Raw, Pasteurized, Evaporated and Dried Milks as Sources of Calcium and Phosphorus for the Human Subject, Journal of Biological Chemistry, 79:283-295, 1928) obtained less favorable calcium balances in adults with pasteurized milk than with ‘fresh milk’ and made the further observation that milk from cows kept in the barn for five months gave less favorable calcium balances than did ‘fresh milk’ (herd milk from a college dairy)."
-Krauss, W. E., Erb, J.H., and Washburn, R.G., "Studies on the nutritive value of milk, II. The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 8, January, 1933.
"Guinea pigs fed raw milk with an addition of skim milk powder, copper and iron salts, carotene, and orange juice grew well and showed no abnormalities at autopsy. When pasteurized whole milk was used, deficiency symptoms began to appear, wrist stiffness being the first sign. The substitution of skim milk for whole milk intensified the deficiency, which was characterized by great emaciation and weakness before death ... At autopsy the muscles were found to be extremely atrophied, and closely packed, fine lines of calcification ran parallel to the fibers. Also calcification occurred in other parts of the body. When cod liver oil replaced carotene in the diet, paralysis developed quickly. The feeding of raw cream cured the wrist stiffness."
-Annual Review of Biochemistry, Vol. 18, Page 435. (1944).
In The Lancet, page 1142, May 8, 1937 it is shown that chilblains are practically eliminated (result of higher calcium values of raw milk or improved assimilation of calcium) when raw milk rather than pasteurized milk is used in the diet of children.
Pasteurization Destroys Vitamin A
"... According to S. Schmidt-Nielsen and Schmidt-Nielson (Kgl. Norske Videnskab. Selsk. Forhandl., 1:126-128, abstracted in Biological Abstracts, 4:94, 1930), when milk pasteurized at 63 degrees C. (145 degrees F.) was fed to mature rats, early death or diminished vitality resulted in the offspring. This was attributed to the destruction of vitamin A."
-Krauss, W.E., Erb, J.H. and Washburn, R.G. Studies on the nutritive value of milk, II. The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 9, January, 1933.
Pasteurization Destroys Vitamin B Complex
"Pasteurization of milk destroys about 38 percent of the B complex according to Dutcher and his associates ..."
-Lewis, L.R., The relation of the vitamins to obstetrics, American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, 29.5:759. May, 1935.
"Mattick and Golding’s "Relative value of Raw and Heated Milk in Nutrition, in The Lancet (220:662-667), reported some preliminary experiments which indicated that pasteurization destroys some of the dietetic value of milk, including partial destruction of Vitamin B1. These same workers found the raw milk to be considerably superior to sterilized milk in nutritive value."
-Krauss, W. E., Erb, J. H. and Washburn, R.G., Studies on the nutritive value of milk, II. The effect of pasteurization on some of the nutritive properties of milk," Ohio Agricultural Experiment Station Bulletin 518, page 7, January, 1933.
"... On the 7.5 cc. level two rats on raw milk developed mild polyneuritis toward the end of the trial; whereas three rats on pasteurized milk developed polyneuritis early, which became severe as the trial drew to a close. On the 10.0 cc. level none of the rats on raw milk developed polyneuritis, but three on pasteurized milk were severely afflicted."
-Ibid, page 23.
"Using standard methods for determining vitamins A, B, G and D, it was found that pasteurization destroyed at least 25 percent of the vitamin B in the original raw milk."
-Ibid, page 30.
Pasteurization Destroys Vitamin C
"... The pasteurization of milk has been found to destroy 20 percent to 50 percent [of the vitamin C] the first month of life. The reasonable procedure, therefore, appears to be to use pasteurized milk to insure protection against disease germs of various kinds and to supply the vitamin deficiency through other foods. The success in infant feeding based on this principle is evinced especially in the amazing reduction in infant mortality in the summer months."
-Jordan, E.O.,A Textbook of General Bacteriology, Twelfth Edition, Revised, page 691, W. B. Saunders Co., 1938.
"Within the past few years an increasing number of patients affected with scurvy have been brought to the Oregon Children’s Hospital. As the prophylactic amount of vitamin C (15 mg. daily) is contained in 300 cc. of breast milk, scurvy is rarely found in breastfed babies. The vitamin C of cow’s milk is largely destroyed by pasteurization or evaporation."
-Overstreet, R.M., Northwest Medicine, June, 1938, as abstracted by Clinical Medicine and Surgery, "The Increase of Scurvy," 42, 12:598, December, 1938.
"Samples of raw, certified , certified Guernsey and certified vitamin D milks were collected at the different dairies throughout the city of Madison. These milks on the average are only a little below the fresh milks as recorded in Table I, indicating that commercial raw and certified milks as delivered to the consumer lose only a small amount of their antiscorbutic potency. Likewise, samples of commercial pasteurized milks were collected and analyzed. On an average they contained only about one-half as much ascorbic acid as fresh raw milks and significantly less ascorbic acid than the commercial unpasteurized milks.
It was found that commercial raw milks contained an antiscorbutic potency that was only slightly less than fresh raw milks and that pasteurized milks on the average contained only one-half the latter potency. Mineral modification and homogenization apparently have a destructive effect on ascorbic acid."
-Woessner, Warren W., Evehjem, C.A., and Schuette, Henry A., "The determination of ascorbic acid in commercial milks," Journal of Nutrition, 18,6:619-626, December, 1939.
Reprint No. 7
Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Publication Date: 12/11/39
RealMilk.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Mercola's Comment
So don’t waste your money on "organic" milk anymore. This is a waste of your resources. Redirect your energy to find real raw milk sources.
Ideally, you can find a local farmer who will be willing to sell that to you. If you find one you will want to encourage him to consider restricting grains from the cows’ feed to improve the quality of the milk.
Check out this link to find out what states, according to the surveys they cite, permit (and prohibit) the sale of raw milk:
www.magma.ca/~ca/rawmilk/sale.htm
I'm thinking that like you said in the water thread that organic milk is a step in the right direction and it is much safer than the regular milk.
How does it taste?
Will it go well with my CAPTAIN CRUNCH?
Does it come in chocolate.
Or does it taste more like taking medicine?
I don't know about RAW milk but I'm guessing it must have a strong flavor or/and odor so it must be difficult to eat.
Will it go well with my CAPTAIN CRUNCH?
Does it come in chocolate.
Or does it taste more like taking medicine?
I don't know about RAW milk but I'm guessing it must have a strong flavor or/and odor so it must be difficult to eat.
My Dad was brought up on it and likes it. I've heard of many farmers that drink it themselves just not allowed to sell in many places. If you found one that would he could loose his lisence.
I've never been lucky enough to try. Though for my metabolic type I am not suppose to have dairy at pressent.
Why would it taste bad? We've been programed to believe that killing food and messing with it and avoiding the natural is gross and dangerous.. sadly whats gross and dangerous is whats in 95% of most super markets IMO
I've heard it tastes good.
How does it taste cooked till its dead? With added hormones and anitbiotics in cows fed dead food that they aren't suppose to eat that live in barns with little or no sun or exercise? Maybe that tastes better... ;)
I've never been lucky enough to try. Though for my metabolic type I am not suppose to have dairy at pressent.
Why would it taste bad? We've been programed to believe that killing food and messing with it and avoiding the natural is gross and dangerous.. sadly whats gross and dangerous is whats in 95% of most super markets IMO
I've heard it tastes good.
How does it taste cooked till its dead? With added hormones and anitbiotics in cows fed dead food that they aren't suppose to eat that live in barns with little or no sun or exercise? Maybe that tastes better... ;)
My sis found some in California. Said it tasted great!! All I've had is the cheese but man its good!
http://www.price-pottenger.org/health_tips.htm
an article on milk
http://www.price-pottenger.org/health_tips.htm
an article on milk
a liitle peice of an interesting letter
"Let's look at the scientific literature first. From 1988 to
1993 there were over 2,700 articles dealing with milk
recorded in the 'Medicine' archives. Fifteen hundred of
theses had milk as the main focus of the article. There is
no lack of scientific information on this subject. I
reviewed over 500 of the 1,500 articles, discarding articles
that dealt exclusively with animals, esoteric research and
inconclusive studies.
How would I summarize the articles? They were only slightly
less than horrifying. First of all, none of the authors
spoke of cow's milk as an excellent food, free of side
effects and the 'perfect food' as we have been led to
believe by the industry. The main focus of the published
reports seems to be on intestinal colic, intestinal
irritation, intestinal bleeding, anemia, allergic reactions
in infants and children as well as infections such as
salmonella. More ominous is the fear of viral infection with
bovine leukemia virus or an AIDS-like virus as well as
concern for childhood diabetes. Contamination of milk by
blood and white (pus) cells as well as a variety of
chemicals and insecticides was also discussed. Among
children the problems were allergy, ear and tonsillar
infections, bedwetting, asthma, intestinal bleeding, colic
and childhood diabetes. In adults the problems seemed
centered more around heart disease and arthritis, allergy,
sinusitis, and the more serious questions of leukemia,
lymphoma and cancer."
-THE MILK LETTER : A MESSAGE TO MY PATIENTS
Robert M. Kradjian, MD
Breast Surgery Chief Division of General Surgery,
Seton Medical Centre #302 - 1800 Sullivan Ave.
Daly City, CA 94015 USA
www.notmilk.com
oh an interesting bit of info. organic milk is around. I forget how long but I think it was in the last 20 years or something. Every single samonella outbreak was from pasteurized milk, none from organic... hhmmmm
"Let's look at the scientific literature first. From 1988 to
1993 there were over 2,700 articles dealing with milk
recorded in the 'Medicine' archives. Fifteen hundred of
theses had milk as the main focus of the article. There is
no lack of scientific information on this subject. I
reviewed over 500 of the 1,500 articles, discarding articles
that dealt exclusively with animals, esoteric research and
inconclusive studies.
How would I summarize the articles? They were only slightly
less than horrifying. First of all, none of the authors
spoke of cow's milk as an excellent food, free of side
effects and the 'perfect food' as we have been led to
believe by the industry. The main focus of the published
reports seems to be on intestinal colic, intestinal
irritation, intestinal bleeding, anemia, allergic reactions
in infants and children as well as infections such as
salmonella. More ominous is the fear of viral infection with
bovine leukemia virus or an AIDS-like virus as well as
concern for childhood diabetes. Contamination of milk by
blood and white (pus) cells as well as a variety of
chemicals and insecticides was also discussed. Among
children the problems were allergy, ear and tonsillar
infections, bedwetting, asthma, intestinal bleeding, colic
and childhood diabetes. In adults the problems seemed
centered more around heart disease and arthritis, allergy,
sinusitis, and the more serious questions of leukemia,
lymphoma and cancer."
-THE MILK LETTER : A MESSAGE TO MY PATIENTS
Robert M. Kradjian, MD
Breast Surgery Chief Division of General Surgery,
Seton Medical Centre #302 - 1800 Sullivan Ave.
Daly City, CA 94015 USA
www.notmilk.com
oh an interesting bit of info. organic milk is around. I forget how long but I think it was in the last 20 years or something. Every single samonella outbreak was from pasteurized milk, none from organic... hhmmmm
Was in California not so long ago and treated myself to loads of raw dairy. I think the company was "organic farms'..
Raw colostrum, milk, cheese, butter, cream
Just became legal in Washington and you can bring personal amounts into Canada too :)
Stuff tastes wonderful!!!!!!!
Raw colostrum, milk, cheese, butter, cream
Just became legal in Washington and you can bring personal amounts into Canada too :)
Stuff tastes wonderful!!!!!!!
“Raw milk cures many diseases.”
J.E. Crewe, MD, The Mayo Foundation, January, 1929
J.E. Crewe, MD, The Mayo Foundation, January, 1929
Do you know which other states allow raw dairy to be sold? I wouldn't mind trying some.
I don't know... Washington just became legal.
California has one of the best "Organic Farms". They are going to non plastic containers soon(corn based)!!!!!! (plastic leaks toxins like estrogen like compounds into things)
You can order to anywhere in the states I think. I'm sure thats not cheap though.
I don't know what other companies there are.
Vermont is not allowed but you might be able to find a co-op and you buy a piece of the cow so then you can have the milk.
www.realmilk.com info and resources on raw milk
www.notmilk.com article on all aspects of milk and milk industry
www.whiteegretfarms.com supplier of raw goats milk products and meats
California has one of the best "Organic Farms". They are going to non plastic containers soon(corn based)!!!!!! (plastic leaks toxins like estrogen like compounds into things)
You can order to anywhere in the states I think. I'm sure thats not cheap though.
I don't know what other companies there are.
Vermont is not allowed but you might be able to find a co-op and you buy a piece of the cow so then you can have the milk.
www.realmilk.com info and resources on raw milk
www.notmilk.com article on all aspects of milk and milk industry
www.whiteegretfarms.com supplier of raw goats milk products and meats
Alabama
Alaska
Arizona
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California
Colorado
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Delware
District of Columbia
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you can can click on all these places on realmilk.com don't know if they all allow... maybe the co-ops etc
it also has some internsational info for those outside US
Alaska
Arizona
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Connecticut
Delware
District of Columbia
Florida
Georgia
Hawaii
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Maine
Maryland
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
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Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New Hampshire
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wyoming
you can can click on all these places on realmilk.com don't know if they all allow... maybe the co-ops etc
it also has some internsational info for those outside US
Sorry "Organic Pastures" not farms..
Raw milk can have some amazing healing effects on asthma and chrones disease.
Was told 6 weeks for asthma by someone (who sells the product) but i do believe it can be very benificial for the right people.
Its PLA plastic (made from corn) that Organic Pastures is going to.
"Polylactic acid (PLA) is made by fermentation of starch from agricultural products like potato or corn (can be obtained from wet milling of corn, or from food wastes). PLA is crystalline and strong (hardness similar to acrylic plastic), and the costs of production are now reducing."
http://www.friendlypackaging.org.uk/novel.htm
better than female like hormones getting into your foods and drink huh?:)
Raw milk can have some amazing healing effects on asthma and chrones disease.
Was told 6 weeks for asthma by someone (who sells the product) but i do believe it can be very benificial for the right people.
Its PLA plastic (made from corn) that Organic Pastures is going to.
"Polylactic acid (PLA) is made by fermentation of starch from agricultural products like potato or corn (can be obtained from wet milling of corn, or from food wastes). PLA is crystalline and strong (hardness similar to acrylic plastic), and the costs of production are now reducing."
http://www.friendlypackaging.org.uk/novel.htm
better than female like hormones getting into your foods and drink huh?:)
marlboro
Posted: 2006-04-14 23:34:28
Posted: 2006-04-14 23:34:28
Australia has just opened a milk bank for lactating women to donate extra breast milk to give to babies whos mothers cant breast feed. The human milk will be processed and stored. Do you think this will be a better option than formula or the processing will destroy the purpose of it?
Personally I think the quality of the milk would be dependant on the health of the mother so I'd be scared to feed my kid some strangers milk (think of sperm banks scary... people look at smart, athletic etc..welll if they aren't healthy...)
Processing the greatest thing you can feed a child is very sad indeed.
I don't know what is best if the Mum isn't healthy enough to breast feed or if there is another reason for it.
Something I look into. I have come across some mention of goats milk here and there.
I'd look on www.westonaprice.org www.price-pottenger.org and see what you can find.
Processing the greatest thing you can feed a child is very sad indeed.
I don't know what is best if the Mum isn't healthy enough to breast feed or if there is another reason for it.
Something I look into. I have come across some mention of goats milk here and there.
I'd look on www.westonaprice.org www.price-pottenger.org and see what you can find.
http://mercola.com/2000/oct/22/infant_formula.htm
thats not a bad one can't believe I forgot to put down www.mercola.com. One of the best research sites for natural health out there. He's a western traind Med Doc thats come around from study of sickness to health.
thats not a bad one can't believe I forgot to put down www.mercola.com. One of the best research sites for natural health out there. He's a western traind Med Doc thats come around from study of sickness to health.
a crap load of articles on the site... good luck
talking about putting formula in a very clean glass. Personally most cleaning fluids and products are pretty toxic. I would look into it or use a non-toxic cleaner. Most peoples homes are more toxic than the polluted air outside.
I mean htink about cleaning your dishes with toxins. Your counter, that you put food on etc.. just nasty if you ask me.
Oh it won't do anything... You know how many peoples detoxification pathways are way over worked???? (plenty from med drugs too)
talking about putting formula in a very clean glass. Personally most cleaning fluids and products are pretty toxic. I would look into it or use a non-toxic cleaner. Most peoples homes are more toxic than the polluted air outside.
I mean htink about cleaning your dishes with toxins. Your counter, that you put food on etc.. just nasty if you ask me.
Oh it won't do anything... You know how many peoples detoxification pathways are way over worked???? (plenty from med drugs too)
Washington state fairly resently started allowing raw dairy... yesterday I picked some up and brought home... yummy!!! Unfortunatly no cream of butter (from place I went). Butter(quality of course) having HUGE health benifits and cream being hugely good for me health wise and both soo damn good. But I gfot milk (cow and goat-cow tastes better-yummy) and goats yogurt-awesome too..
Don't forget most lactose intollerent people can handle raw dairy (cause it actually has enzymes in it, as foods should, including the ones that aid in digesting it).
Don't forget most lactose intollerent people can handle raw dairy (cause it actually has enzymes in it, as foods should, including the ones that aid in digesting it).
-no cream OR butter-
(there are some people getting together t bring in raw butter and cream from California-Organic Pastures!!!!) :)
reason for post
http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm
more proof that raw dairy (like who or whatever the creative force in the universe designed it before man thought they were smarter) is the way to go
reason for post
http://www.mercola.com/2006/sep/7/the_expert_are_wrong_about_raw_milk.htm
more proof that raw dairy (like who or whatever the creative force in the universe designed it before man thought they were smarter) is the way to go
Interesting stuff Mark. Came across an article on the Guardian newspaper's website promoting the benefits of organic milk. It stated:
"a pint of organic milk has on average 68% more omega 3 fatty acids than conventional milk. Omega 3 fatty acids are called essential fatty acids because they cannot be produced in the body and must be eaten. They have been linked to reduced risk of heart disease and of some forms of cancer, and are also vital to normal brain functioning. They are generally depleted in western diets"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0,,1861619,00.html
"a pint of organic milk has on average 68% more omega 3 fatty acids than conventional milk. Omega 3 fatty acids are called essential fatty acids because they cannot be produced in the body and must be eaten. They have been linked to reduced risk of heart disease and of some forms of cancer, and are also vital to normal brain functioning. They are generally depleted in western diets"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/food/Story/0,,1861619,00.html
tonym--yeah organic has some big benifits but...
The health of an animal will determine what it is made of, what it eats etc too (what are we made of?)..
But there are organic things that cows are not ment to eat. like grains, corn and soy for example.
A grass fed cow that is non medicated will have the best quality milk.
Organic milk could come from poorly treated animals fed foods that though organic, are not ment for bovine consumption...
Then you have the processing of this very likely wonderful product..
My advice (and what I do) is raw, non medicated over organic any day. If its not raw I don't bother drinking it.
Most lactose intollerant people can handle raw...hmmmm it actually has enzymes (like lactase) to help digest it..processed milk has NO enzymes left in it.
Organic is better than reg for sure. But I wouldn't spend my money on processed dairy...
Here in Canada you can only get raw cheese. But Washington, just across the boarder started selling raw dairy!!! (only milk and yogurt so far) :) So I make a trip down south once in a while (you can freeze milk). I'm also hooking up with a group that brings in raw AND organic dairy from California (Organic Pastures-awesome company!!) so I'll be able to get butter and cream!!!!!!!!! Yum!!!!!!! Butter is huge in health (quality butter that is). In fact, according to someone I know who has a near 100% success rate with women and fertility probs-he says its one of THE BEST things for regulating womens hormones. And raw cream is very very good for someone who processes food the way I do and they are both so damn tasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
I support organic for sure when ever I can(of course there is a lot of bs there too) but organic isn't much good when processed IMO
The health of an animal will determine what it is made of, what it eats etc too (what are we made of?)..
But there are organic things that cows are not ment to eat. like grains, corn and soy for example.
A grass fed cow that is non medicated will have the best quality milk.
Organic milk could come from poorly treated animals fed foods that though organic, are not ment for bovine consumption...
Then you have the processing of this very likely wonderful product..
My advice (and what I do) is raw, non medicated over organic any day. If its not raw I don't bother drinking it.
Most lactose intollerant people can handle raw...hmmmm it actually has enzymes (like lactase) to help digest it..processed milk has NO enzymes left in it.
Organic is better than reg for sure. But I wouldn't spend my money on processed dairy...
Here in Canada you can only get raw cheese. But Washington, just across the boarder started selling raw dairy!!! (only milk and yogurt so far) :) So I make a trip down south once in a while (you can freeze milk). I'm also hooking up with a group that brings in raw AND organic dairy from California (Organic Pastures-awesome company!!) so I'll be able to get butter and cream!!!!!!!!! Yum!!!!!!! Butter is huge in health (quality butter that is). In fact, according to someone I know who has a near 100% success rate with women and fertility probs-he says its one of THE BEST things for regulating womens hormones. And raw cream is very very good for someone who processes food the way I do and they are both so damn tasty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
I support organic for sure when ever I can(of course there is a lot of bs there too) but organic isn't much good when processed IMO
Incase anyone heres about this I thought I'd comment..
Organic Pastures (a California company) is a wonderful supplier of raw dairy products. I love thier products and I am trying to get some up ths way on a regular basis.
The FDA made them recall a huge amount because some kids got sick who had drank it.
The thing is they haven't made the link to the milk.
The symptoms were exactly the same as an e coli prob going around from spinach (I believe 4 dead). Origionally organic spinach was blamed but surprise surprise none of the cases were from organic, all from commercially farmed spinach.
The recalled dairy-they have NOT found anything in it!!!!!!
I'm not saying believe me if you hear about it but I am saying at least looking deeper into it might produce some slightly different evidance..
I personally wouldn't not fear drinking the recalled products.
Organic Pastures (a California company) is a wonderful supplier of raw dairy products. I love thier products and I am trying to get some up ths way on a regular basis.
The FDA made them recall a huge amount because some kids got sick who had drank it.
The thing is they haven't made the link to the milk.
The symptoms were exactly the same as an e coli prob going around from spinach (I believe 4 dead). Origionally organic spinach was blamed but surprise surprise none of the cases were from organic, all from commercially farmed spinach.
The recalled dairy-they have NOT found anything in it!!!!!!
I'm not saying believe me if you hear about it but I am saying at least looking deeper into it might produce some slightly different evidance..
I personally wouldn't not fear drinking the recalled products.
Sorry one death from spinach
I think recall was on milk alone...
4 kids drank milk and came down with an identical infection of the one from spinach and the milk it was NOT found!
I think recall was on milk alone...
4 kids drank milk and came down with an identical infection of the one from spinach and the milk it was NOT found!
http://www.mercola.com/2006/oct/7/wal-mart_promotes_a_distorted_view_of_organic_foods.htm
by the way Organic Pastures is sueing the government!!
I just got some raw milk from the States yesterday and I'll be getting Organic Pastures products soon I hope. I have a contact who will be bringing it in for a small group of us! :)
I just got some raw milk from the States yesterday and I'll be getting Organic Pastures products soon I hope. I have a contact who will be bringing it in for a small group of us! :)
A lady in the UK has been reported this morning as having contracted TB from cows milk. I`m assuming it cant have been pasteurised.
Can't buy raw milk in -pretty sure... Though its possible she had a farm or something or her own cow I would say its unlikely that it wasn't pasturized.
By the way your logic is flawed IMO
http://www.mercola.com/2000/aug/13/milk_tb.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2000/aug/13/milk_tb.htm
"Research conducted by the British government recently found contamination with a form of tuberculosis bacterium in about 10% of samples of milk. And these results came after the dairy industry began advising milk producers to add an additional 10 to 15 seconds to the "flash" pastuerization process."
link above summerizes article and links to origional
Can't buy raw milk in... England-somehow missed England in the above post
I am wrong :)
http://realmilk.com/where-other.html#uk
theres some resources for anyone interested in real milk that is actually good for you as opposed to bad for you and tastes wonderful!
http://realmilk.com/where-other.html#uk
theres some resources for anyone interested in real milk that is actually good for you as opposed to bad for you and tastes wonderful!
Bosbury
Cornwall, near Callington/Gunnislake
Cornwall, near Callington/Gunnislake
East Sussex
Northumberland
Sainsbury's and Tesco
Waitrose
Wales
Waitrose, for example, just has raw cheese (I think). But I'm pretty sure when I was there and asked they looked at me like I was speaking a strange language...maybe it wasn't Waitrose or maybe it came in after.. or maybe just not that location....
but realmilk.com has info
phil-please share details if you can find them out..
Northumberland
Sainsbury's and Tesco
Waitrose
Wales
Waitrose, for example, just has raw cheese (I think). But I'm pretty sure when I was there and asked they looked at me like I was speaking a strange language...maybe it wasn't Waitrose or maybe it came in after.. or maybe just not that location....
but realmilk.com has info
phil-please share details if you can find them out..
Full details here Mark:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/6039216.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/6039216.stm
Thanks phil
"The source of the outbreak is thought to have been a man who drank untreated, unpasteurised milk."
in other words thats all they can think of and we are all programmed with how dangerous raw milk is.
Keep us posted on the updates.
This is what always happens when the source is not yet known and anyone drinks raw milk. Just like Organic Pastures recall...
We are programmed with the nessesity of nuking milk for our safety... (nuke milk is not health giving)
Anyway please keep us posted on the results and IF they do find out the source.
The fear mongering 'raw milk is gonna get ya!' just doesn't cut it for me... (know how much money the dairy industry would stand to loose if all milk had to be raw???-huge money here-how many milktashes you seen on adds-yep they pay to make it look good!)
anyway, personal beliefs aside lets look for the facts..so far they know NOT the cause.
Lets see if the cause is or is not raw milk. Its possible for sure.. Just like its certainly possible in zapped till dead milk as well.
"The source of the outbreak is thought to have been a man who drank untreated, unpasteurised milk."
in other words thats all they can think of and we are all programmed with how dangerous raw milk is.
Keep us posted on the updates.
This is what always happens when the source is not yet known and anyone drinks raw milk. Just like Organic Pastures recall...
We are programmed with the nessesity of nuking milk for our safety... (nuke milk is not health giving)
Anyway please keep us posted on the results and IF they do find out the source.
The fear mongering 'raw milk is gonna get ya!' just doesn't cut it for me... (know how much money the dairy industry would stand to loose if all milk had to be raw???-huge money here-how many milktashes you seen on adds-yep they pay to make it look good!)
anyway, personal beliefs aside lets look for the facts..so far they know NOT the cause.
Lets see if the cause is or is not raw milk. Its possible for sure.. Just like its certainly possible in zapped till dead milk as well.
I will keep my eyes open for further info!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZYA2zFsCK8
fox News reporters get in shit for trying to tell the trusth about milk!
"The Corperation" has this in it too...
Once again Monsanto is in the middle of the scariness.
fox News reporters get in shit for trying to tell the trusth about milk!
"The Corperation" has this in it too...
Once again Monsanto is in the middle of the scariness.
Canada was smart enough on this one but this is how the system works...
Threats to the news if they say the truth...
where do you get your info?
Threats to the news if they say the truth...
where do you get your info?
part two is on there
http://www.mercola.com/2007/feb/3/more-dairies-eliminating-monsantos-dangerous-hormones.htm
"Safeway's processing plants in both Portland and Seattle are now free of milk tainted with rBGH (bovine growth hormone)."
Monsanto is the one behind rBGH. I wouldn't be surprised if Safeway was sued for this.
Remember Codex wants to require ALL cows to be given this and do the research, it is nasty nasty stuff.
Nice to see Safeway doing something safe.
"Safeway's processing plants in both Portland and Seattle are now free of milk tainted with rBGH (bovine growth hormone)."
Monsanto is the one behind rBGH. I wouldn't be surprised if Safeway was sued for this.
Remember Codex wants to require ALL cows to be given this and do the research, it is nasty nasty stuff.
Nice to see Safeway doing something safe.
No more dairy for me, and my lungs are feeling better.
Nice to hear the feed back (I'd be curious how you'd feel on raw dairy-many report improvement with raw dairy on symptoms, even when not having any dairy to start)
Breaking News!!
A study of 14,893 children in Europe finds that consumption of Raw Milk protects against Asthma and Allergies.
( Parsifal study Waser et al. Clinical and Experimental Allergy.37 661-670 May 2007)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/05/070510093349.htm
This research study adds tremendous weight to the “hygiene hypothesis”. Confirming that whole foods, a broad range of good bacteria and enzymes are essential to our health and immune systems function. Contrarily, those that live lives that avoid bacteria and eat processed foods become ill.
Delicious raw milk and raw dairy products which are naturally extremely pro-biotic ( 800 times more than yogurt ) provide these missing essential bacteria and enzymes.
As America embraces antibiotics, sterilized and preserved foods in an attempt to avoid disease i.e.…“terrorization and fear of bacteria” …our immune systems are failing at epidemic proportions.
Cultures that embrace a whole food diet simply do not have the diseases found rampant in the USA .
Consumers in California have discovered raw milk and the health it brings. Now it is official, Raw Milk brings healing and prevents Asthma. Something we have known from consumer testimonials for years but until now was unproven.
As far as raw milk safety is concerned, when cows are grazed naturally on green pastures, the raw milk they produce is extremely safe. The safety record of organic raw milk sold at retail in California stores is now 50 million servings to zero pathogens detected over seven years of intensive testing. Advanced testing now permits safety never imagined before. Heal your Asthma naturally with raw milk…and put away the drugs.
A project of www.westonaprice.org and www.realmilk.org
Raw Milk is available in California at 300 stores and cooperatives.
Wrong. And Recent Apple Juice Tragedy Could Have Been Averted
Warning: This product is 100% natural, is not pasteurized and contains no preservatives. It may contain harmful bacteria.
Would you drink apple juice labeled like this? Would you give it to your baby? But the juice wasn't labeled, people did drink it, and now 48 are in the hospital and one--a 16-month-old baby girl from Denver has died.
Such tragedies are senseless. We have the means to prevent them: pasteurization. If pasteurization is not used, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) should mandate a warning label on any unpasteurized products.
An E. coli infection (E. coli 0157:H7) is not a simple case of nausea and mild diarrhea. Victims suffer from acute abdominal pain and frequently have bloody stools. It can't be treated by antibiotics.
Children Most Susceptible To E. Coli Complications
The bacteria attach to intestinal cells and produce an extremely potent toxin. Approximately 10% of patients with such infections develop acute kidney failure and other serious problems that can be fatal. Young children are the most susceptible to such complications.
Pasteurization destroys E. coli, and milk pasteurization is mandated in almost every state. It protects against microorganisms like E coli and salmonella and diseases like tuberculosis.
Pasteurization is the destruction of disease-causing microorganisms in a food. It may be accomplished by heating or irradiating the food.
Some people object to heat pasteurization because they say it causes loss of nutrients from the food. This is true, but typically loss is minimal. Fresh orange juice, for example, contains about 125 milligrams of vitamin C per cup; when pasteurized, the juice has about 90. The recommended dietary allowance of vitamin C is 60 mg for an adult, so one glass still provides plenty.
Apple juice is not a major source of Vitamin C, providing only about 5 mg per cup if fresh, and 2 mg if pasteurized. No one should be counting on any sort of unsupplemented apple juice for their vitamin C---pasteurized or not.
Another objection to heat pasteurization is that the flavor of the juice is altered. But if the apple juice is used in multi-juice drink, as it was in the products that caused an E. Coli outbreak in several western states earlier this year, it is unlikely that the flavor change could be detected--even with heat pasteurization.
Pasteurization By Irradiation
An alternative to heat that would preserve flavor is pasteurization by irradiation. Food irradiation was approved by the World Health Organization more than 10 years ago, has been approved by the U.S. government for a variety of foods, and its use has been supported by groups such as the American Medical Association, American Dietetics Association and American Gastroenterological Association. But it is not yet widely used in this country. It is not a heat-producing process, does not make the food radioactive, and will kill E. coli, salmonella and other pathogenic bacteria.
E. coli first came to public attention in 1993 due to an outbreak associated with eating hamburgers. More than 700 people became ill, 178 were hospitalized, 56 children developed kidney failure, and four died. Though similar outbreaks continue to occur, the U.S. food industry and government regulators have not taken full advantage of the technologies that could enhance the safety of our food.
My heart goes out to the families who have lost loved ones from E. coli infections. As a scientist, I know the risks associated with unpasturized products. My family and I have enjoyed fresh apple juice, but never again. I am appalled that fresh juice without warning labels is still on the market, and that people are also served under-cooked hamburger.
People must not be mislead into thinking that natural is automatically safe. Technologies are protective. Pasteurization by heat or irradiation destroys bacteria that can lead to illness or death. Health authorities should require safe and adequate processing, and they should move swiftly to permit the safe use of new technologies.
And until such technologies are in place, warning labels should allow people to make informed choices. Consumers should be able to choose safety-enhanced heat or irradiation-pasteurized foods.
~~~~~~~~
By DR. CHRISTINE BRUHN
Dr. Bruhn, Ph.D., is scientific advisor to the American Council on Science and Health
Warning: This product is 100% natural, is not pasteurized and contains no preservatives. It may contain harmful bacteria.
Would you drink apple juice labeled like this? Would you give it to your baby? But the juice wasn't labeled, people did drink it, and now 48 are in the hospital and one--a 16-month-old baby girl from Denver has died.
Such tragedies are senseless. We have the means to prevent them: pasteurization. If pasteurization is not used, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) should mandate a warning label on any unpasteurized products.
An E. coli infection (E. coli 0157:H7) is not a simple case of nausea and mild diarrhea. Victims suffer from acute abdominal pain and frequently have bloody stools. It can't be treated by antibiotics.
Children Most Susceptible To E. Coli Complications
The bacteria attach to intestinal cells and produce an extremely potent toxin. Approximately 10% of patients with such infections develop acute kidney failure and other serious problems that can be fatal. Young children are the most susceptible to such complications.
Pasteurization destroys E. coli, and milk pasteurization is mandated in almost every state. It protects against microorganisms like E coli and salmonella and diseases like tuberculosis.
Pasteurization is the destruction of disease-causing microorganisms in a food. It may be accomplished by heating or irradiating the food.
Some people object to heat pasteurization because they say it causes loss of nutrients from the food. This is true, but typically loss is minimal. Fresh orange juice, for example, contains about 125 milligrams of vitamin C per cup; when pasteurized, the juice has about 90. The recommended dietary allowance of vitamin C is 60 mg for an adult, so one glass still provides plenty.
Apple juice is not a major source of Vitamin C, providing only about 5 mg per cup if fresh, and 2 mg if pasteurized. No one should be counting on any sort of unsupplemented apple juice for their vitamin C---pasteurized or not.
Another objection to heat pasteurization is that the flavor of the juice is altered. But if the apple juice is used in multi-juice drink, as it was in the products that caused an E. Coli outbreak in several western states earlier this year, it is unlikely that the flavor change could be detected--even with heat pasteurization.
Pasteurization By Irradiation
An alternative to heat that would preserve flavor is pasteurization by irradiation. Food irradiation was approved by the World Health Organization more than 10 years ago, has been approved by the U.S. government for a variety of foods, and its use has been supported by groups such as the American Medical Association, American Dietetics Association and American Gastroenterological Association. But it is not yet widely used in this country. It is not a heat-producing process, does not make the food radioactive, and will kill E. coli, salmonella and other pathogenic bacteria.
E. coli first came to public attention in 1993 due to an outbreak associated with eating hamburgers. More than 700 people became ill, 178 were hospitalized, 56 children developed kidney failure, and four died. Though similar outbreaks continue to occur, the U.S. food industry and government regulators have not taken full advantage of the technologies that could enhance the safety of our food.
My heart goes out to the families who have lost loved ones from E. coli infections. As a scientist, I know the risks associated with unpasturized products. My family and I have enjoyed fresh apple juice, but never again. I am appalled that fresh juice without warning labels is still on the market, and that people are also served under-cooked hamburger.
People must not be mislead into thinking that natural is automatically safe. Technologies are protective. Pasteurization by heat or irradiation destroys bacteria that can lead to illness or death. Health authorities should require safe and adequate processing, and they should move swiftly to permit the safe use of new technologies.
And until such technologies are in place, warning labels should allow people to make informed choices. Consumers should be able to choose safety-enhanced heat or irradiation-pasteurized foods.
~~~~~~~~
By DR. CHRISTINE BRUHN
Dr. Bruhn, Ph.D., is scientific advisor to the American Council on Science and Health
so share some numbers and cases
also I would be interested to find out who funds her
also I would be interested to find out who funds her
AMERICAN COUNCIL ON SCIENCE AND HEALTH
The following groups have contributed to ACSH in the past according to ACSH's 1991 annual report. ACSH stopped disclosing corporate donors in the early 1990s.
$25,000 and above
* American Cyanamid Company
* Anheuser-Busch Foundation
* General Electric Foundation
* Rollin M. Gerstacker Foundation
* ICI Agricultural Products, Inc.
* ISK Biotech Corporation
* Kraft, Inc.
* Monsanto Fund
* The NutraSweet Company
* John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
* Pfizer, Inc.
* Sarah Scalfe Foundation Incorporated
* The Starr Foundation
$15,000 to $24,000
* Archer Daniels Midland Company
* Carnation Company
* Ciba-Geigy Corporation
* Ethyl Corporation
* Exxon Corporation
* General Mills, Inc.
* Heublein Inc.
* Hiram Walker-Allied Vintners
* Johnson & Johnson
* Kellogg Company
* The Esther A. and Joseph Klingenstein Fund, Inc.
* Malysian Palm Oil Promotion Council
* National Starch and Chemical Foundation, Inc.
* PepsiCo Foundation Inc.
* Union Carbide Corporation
$10,000 to $14,999
* Aetna Foundation, Inc.
* The Bristol-Myers Squibble Foundation, Inc
* Chevron Corporation
* Dow Chemical U.S.A
* E. I. DuPont De Nemours & Company
* FMC Foundation
* The Gerber Companies Foundation
* Hershey Foods Corporation Fund
* Thomas J. Lipton Foundation, Inc
* National Agricultural Chemicals Association
* National Soft Drink Association
* The Procter & Gamble Fund
* Rohm & Haas Company
* Joseph R. Seagram &Sons, Inc
* Searle Charitable Trust
* Shell Oil Company Foundation
* Sterling Winthrop Inc
* The Sugar Association, Inc.
* Uniroyal Chemical Company, Inc.
$5,000 to $9,999
* Alcoa Foundation
* Allied-Signal Foundation Inc.
* Amax Foundation, Inc.
* The Becton Dickinson Foundation
* Campbell Soup Fund
* Cargrill Fertilizer Division
* The Coca-Cola Company
* Cooper Industries Foundation
* Supporting Member
* Consolidated Edison Company of New York, Inc.
* Distilled Spirits Council of the United States
* Ford Motor Company Fund
* Frito-Lay, Inc.
* Georgia-Pacific Corporation
* Heinz U.S.A
* IMC Fertilizer, Inc.
* KPMG Peat Marwick
* McCormick & Company, Inc.
* Mobil Foundation
* National Live Stock & Meat Board
* Olin Corporation Charitable Trust
* PPG Industries Foundation
* Pepsi-Cola Company
* The Reader's Digest Association, Inc.
* Simpson Fund
* The Stare Fund
* Sun Company, Inc.
* USX Foundation Inc.
* The Warner-Lambert Foundation
The following groups have contributed to ACSH in the past according to ACSH's 1991 annual report. ACSH stopped disclosing corporate donors in the early 1990s.
$25,000 and above
* American Cyanamid Company
* Anheuser-Busch Foundation
* General Electric Foundation
* Rollin M. Gerstacker Foundation
* ICI Agricultural Products, Inc.
* ISK Biotech Corporation
* Kraft, Inc.
* Monsanto Fund
* The NutraSweet Company
* John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
* Pfizer, Inc.
* Sarah Scalfe Foundation Incorporated
* The Starr Foundation
$15,000 to $24,000
* Archer Daniels Midland Company
* Carnation Company
* Ciba-Geigy Corporation
* Ethyl Corporation
* Exxon Corporation
* General Mills, Inc.
* Heublein Inc.
* Hiram Walker-Allied Vintners
* Johnson & Johnson
* Kellogg Company
* The Esther A. and Joseph Klingenstein Fund, Inc.
* Malysian Palm Oil Promotion Council
* National Starch and Chemical Foundation, Inc.
* PepsiCo Foundation Inc.
* Union Carbide Corporation
$10,000 to $14,999
* Aetna Foundation, Inc.
* The Bristol-Myers Squibble Foundation, Inc
* Chevron Corporation
* Dow Chemical U.S.A
* E. I. DuPont De Nemours & Company
* FMC Foundation
* The Gerber Companies Foundation
* Hershey Foods Corporation Fund
* Thomas J. Lipton Foundation, Inc
* National Agricultural Chemicals Association
* National Soft Drink Association
* The Procter & Gamble Fund
* Rohm & Haas Company
* Joseph R. Seagram &Sons, Inc
* Searle Charitable Trust
* Shell Oil Company Foundation
* Sterling Winthrop Inc
* The Sugar Association, Inc.
* Uniroyal Chemical Company, Inc.
$5,000 to $9,999
* Alcoa Foundation
* Allied-Signal Foundation Inc.
* Amax Foundation, Inc.
* The Becton Dickinson Foundation
* Campbell Soup Fund
* Cargrill Fertilizer Division
* The Coca-Cola Company
* Cooper Industries Foundation
* Supporting Member
* Consolidated Edison Company of New York, Inc.
* Distilled Spirits Council of the United States
* Ford Motor Company Fund
* Frito-Lay, Inc.
* Georgia-Pacific Corporation
* Heinz U.S.A
* IMC Fertilizer, Inc.
* KPMG Peat Marwick
* McCormick & Company, Inc.
* Mobil Foundation
* National Live Stock & Meat Board
* Olin Corporation Charitable Trust
* PPG Industries Foundation
* Pepsi-Cola Company
* The Reader's Digest Association, Inc.
* Simpson Fund
* The Stare Fund
* Sun Company, Inc.
* USX Foundation Inc.
* The Warner-Lambert Foundation
Monsanto at the top I see...
If its not too much trouble Mark, could you tell me where you saw or got the information on the positive effects of raw milk had on those with chrones disease.I know someone who could benefit from the knowledge.thanks :o)
get water intake up to par (pinch of unprocessed sea salt per liter), virgin coconut oil, omega 3's, get off gluten! Protein with every meal. Good quality probiotics (raw dairy has lots of)
haven't gone through and picked out but between these sights there should be some good info
price-pottenger.org
westonaprice.org
mercola.com
realmilk.com
organicpastures.com
EFT on symptoms should do wonders as well as any emotional contributers. People with degenerative diseases very often have what is termed "psychological reversal". What this is is that for some reason the body doesn't want to heal. Its pretty easy to correct the reversal. I would consider looking on emofree.com for testimonials on this specific issue or related issues like colitis etc..
If there is a belief that there is a possibility of emotional components to certain areas of the body the colon is sometmes thought to be related to fear of letting go/holding onto the past.
With diagnostic techniques like applied kinesiology (muscle testing) you can simply ask the body if there is an emotional component and if there is quickly narrow it down.
Actually a friend has crones and he asked me for some input (we hardly see each other). I was rushing out the door but we spent about 5 minutes on his current symptom of a bloated stomch feeling that was only a 4 on a 0-10 scale. It went to a 0.
Actually interestingly I believe we worked on fear/symptom come to think of it which fits with the fear of letting go/colon belief.
haven't gone through and picked out but between these sights there should be some good info
price-pottenger.org
westonaprice.org
mercola.com
realmilk.com
organicpastures.com
EFT on symptoms should do wonders as well as any emotional contributers. People with degenerative diseases very often have what is termed "psychological reversal". What this is is that for some reason the body doesn't want to heal. Its pretty easy to correct the reversal. I would consider looking on emofree.com for testimonials on this specific issue or related issues like colitis etc..
If there is a belief that there is a possibility of emotional components to certain areas of the body the colon is sometmes thought to be related to fear of letting go/holding onto the past.
With diagnostic techniques like applied kinesiology (muscle testing) you can simply ask the body if there is an emotional component and if there is quickly narrow it down.
Actually a friend has crones and he asked me for some input (we hardly see each other). I was rushing out the door but we spent about 5 minutes on his current symptom of a bloated stomch feeling that was only a 4 on a 0-10 scale. It went to a 0.
Actually interestingly I believe we worked on fear/symptom come to think of it which fits with the fear of letting go/colon belief.
http://www.organicpastures.com/milk_diet_window.html
Thanks Mark. It would be amazing if, by drinking milk fresh out of a cow could or would turn a persson affected by chrones disease into someone who is free of the symptoms.Time will tell but heres hoping it works better than the medication and the side effects they have on my daughter :)
I personally believe in approaching it from multiple angles. If you eat gluten and processed foods and soy and microwave your food and you are dehydrated all the time, then something powerful and wonderful like raw milk may not have much of a noticeable affect.
For symptoms if nothing else. I would strongly recommend trying EFT. You can download a free manual and I will trouble shoot for you if you seem to not be getting results.
Personally if I were a betting man and if I were to be as unprofessional as to bet on EFT working with a client. I would bet that we could bring symptoms and the pain and the effects down - a lot!
Its really very easy mechanically and she could do it herself, anytime, anywhere.
One of my friends found HUGE changes in Crohn's after upping his water and going on probiotics (Primal Defense).
If not mistaken he went off all meds and was doing better than ever before.
I am NOT suggesting you go off meds!
I would also suggest, as a starting point, metabolic typing.
One fix all is probably not gonna work. Most things eaten will either help heal or make it worse.
If gluten sensitive and you eat gluten you automatically are dairy sensitive (don't produce lactace) Good news is raw milk has lactace and lactace producing bacteria in it. But IF sensitive to gluten you got probs.
http://www.emofree.com/Articles2/ulcerative-colitis-headaches.htm
example of EFT with colitis
the middle you might not follow - no worries basically they are just discribing the words they use along with the tapping - the words are used to focus the brain on the issue at hand.
For symptoms if nothing else. I would strongly recommend trying EFT. You can download a free manual and I will trouble shoot for you if you seem to not be getting results.
Personally if I were a betting man and if I were to be as unprofessional as to bet on EFT working with a client. I would bet that we could bring symptoms and the pain and the effects down - a lot!
Its really very easy mechanically and she could do it herself, anytime, anywhere.
One of my friends found HUGE changes in Crohn's after upping his water and going on probiotics (Primal Defense).
If not mistaken he went off all meds and was doing better than ever before.
I am NOT suggesting you go off meds!
I would also suggest, as a starting point, metabolic typing.
One fix all is probably not gonna work. Most things eaten will either help heal or make it worse.
If gluten sensitive and you eat gluten you automatically are dairy sensitive (don't produce lactace) Good news is raw milk has lactace and lactace producing bacteria in it. But IF sensitive to gluten you got probs.
http://www.emofree.com/Articles2/ulcerative-colitis-headaches.htm
example of EFT with colitis
the middle you might not follow - no worries basically they are just discribing the words they use along with the tapping - the words are used to focus the brain on the issue at hand.
Talked to my friend that I did a tiny amount of EFT with for his IBS stuff.. he says his symptoms haven't been as bad and he can get rid of them by tapping.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p0PCs2jDvM&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Farticles%2Emercola%2Ecom%2Fsites%2Farticles%2Farchive%2F2007%2F07%2F05%2Fwhat%2Dhave%2Dthey%2Ddone%2Dto%2Dmilk%2Easpx
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